Originally posted by RBHILLdo you really believe that silly rhetoric like "born again" matters? what matters is your personal relationship with Christ. don't get hung up on words and dogma...some of the finest christians I know are devout catholics
generalissimo I am not going to lie to you.
I was raised in the Catholic Church.
It just wasn't for me because they don't teach that you need to accept Christ in your heart. And growing up in that Church I never heard the saying must be born again.
Originally posted by duecer..and even finer christians aren,t christians at allπ
do you really believe that silly rhetoric like "born again" matters? what matters is your personal relationship with Christ. don't get hung up on words and dogma...some of the finest christians I know are devout catholics
Originally posted by duecerI know that there is no church or religion that can save you, I know only Jesus can. And yes I know that there are some Catholics who are saved. I have talked them at Spirit West Coast.
do you really believe that silly rhetoric like "born again" matters? what matters is your personal relationship with Christ. don't get hung up on words and dogma...some of the finest christians I know are devout catholics
Originally posted by generalissimoWhat other religions have I said are wrong? All I'm saying is that if you don't have a relationship with Christ who is God then you're not in the truth. And by the way I am Catholic.
yes.
I do believe in Jesus christ as the savior, however I don't condemn other religions as inferior nor do I think they're wrong, unlike you.
So, are you converting to catholicism or are you going to continue as a heretic?
What's this nonsense about convert or go to hell? Catholics don't believe that! You're giving us a bad name by saying that. I don't believe Protestants are heretics per say, we're all in the body of Christ, right?!
Originally posted by chappy1So are you telling me it is ok for people to be muslims and they can still git into heaven?
What other religions have I said are wrong? All I'm saying is that if you don't have a relationship with Christ who is God then you're not in the truth. And by the way I am Catholic.
What's this nonsense about convert or go to hell? Catholics don't believe that! You're giving us a bad name by saying that. I don't believe Protestants are heretics per say, we're all in the body of Christ, right?!
Originally posted by RBHILLI didn't say that, did I? I said if you don't have a relationship with Christ well, let's just say you have a major problem. Do Muslims have a relationship with Jesus Christ? No they don't. In fact they consider believing that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh is one of the worst sins you can commit (the sin of shirk). ALL CHRISTIANS are those who have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox or whatever. Those that don't (ie: Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus etc.) are the ones that will have a problem once they die. I would not want to be in their shoes!
So are you telling me it is ok for people to be muslims and they can still git into heaven?