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Using the mouth to contact God is not verses being a "Good Samaritan".
The dichotomy is not automatic.
This thread is on coming to God by means of speaking to unleash and release the grace of God which is with the innermost part of the believer, his human spirit, FOR service, FOR obedience, FOR charity, FOR serving the Lord.
Contacting God for the GRACE to live unto God.
"The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit." (Phil. 4:23)
So the Christians needs to learn to exercise her spirit. Exercise the innermost kernel of our being by the mouth SPEAKING, CALLING, PRAISING, and PRAYING and CALLING, and CALLING out to and CALLING to.
The goal is to RELEASE the grace of the Holy Spirit which is with the believer's spirit.
02 Sep 19
@sonship saidI bet the priest and the Levite were praying and calling out to God to protect them from the bandits and robbers. The Good Samaritan I would wager simply did what his good conscience told him to do.
Using the mouth to contact God is not verses being a "Good Samaritan".
The dichotomy is not automatic.
This thread is on coming to God by means of speaking to unleash and release the grace of God which is with the innermost part of the believer, his human spirit, FOR service, FOR obedience, FOR charity, FOR serving the Lord.
Contacting God for the GRACE to live unt ...[text shortened]...
The goal is to RELEASE the grace of the Holy Spirit which is with the believer's spirit.
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I bet the priest and the Levite were praying and calling out to God to protect them from the bandits and robbers. The Good Samaritan I would wager simply did what his good conscience told him to do.
I think you have the wrong interpretation of the parable. I think "the Good Samaritan" is actually the Lord Jesus Himself.
What the good Samaritan did points to what Jesus the Son of God has done for the sinner.
At any rate, to show love and mercy to others is enhanced and empowered by our contacting the Lord. To touch Him is empowering.
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ is WITH the believer's human spirit.
That is the deepest part of a man's heart. And the current of the world is ever against that part of his being.
So the Christian has a life of going against the downward current of the world. And to swim against the flow of the world as a salmon fish swims upstream, it helps to use the MOUTH in exercising the innermost spirit.
So Paul told Timothy to be with those who CALL on the Lord out of a pure heart.
"But flee youthful lust, and pursue, righteousness, faith, love, peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart." (2 Tim. 2:22)
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@sonship saidWrong. I have the correct interpretation. Your church interpretation is nonsense. The story is an illustration of what IS REQUIRED TO GET ETERNAL LIFE in the Kingdom of God. To drive home the point and to stop false teachers like you from saying that Jesus was speaking of himself, Jesus in the end says " .. go and do likewise...
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I bet the priest and the Levite were praying and calling out to God to protect them from the bandits and robbers. The Good Samaritan I would wager simply did what his good conscience told him to do.
I think you have the wrong interpretation of the parable. I think "the Good Samaritan" is actually the Lord Jesus Himself.
What the good ...[text shortened]... th, love, peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart." (2 Tim. 2:22) [/quote]
That means
- do it and you get eternal life
- do it not and you get cast out.
This point is further driven home by the Matt 25 judgment day details, which you also twist and bend out of shape. You are a pathetic bible twister.
02 Sep 19
@rajk999 saidStop looking a "free gift" in the mouth.
Wrong. I have the correct interpretation. Your church interpretation is nonsense. The story is an illustration of what IS REQUIRED TO GET ETERNAL LIFE in the Kingdom of God. To further drive home the point and to stop false teachers like you from saying that Jesus was speaking of himself, Jesus in the end says " .. go and do likewise...
That means
- do it and ...[text shortened]... judgment day details, which you also twist and bend out of shape. You are a pathetic bible twister.
02 Sep 19
@sonship saidCould you spell it for me please?
Do not let anyone discourage you from opening up your whole being and with it using your M-O-U-T-H to come into a relationship with God.
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The accumulative effect of Rajk999's teaching is the heart becomes colder and colder towards the Lord Jesus Christ.
The long term accumulative effect of Divegeester's teaching is the same. The heart becomes colder and colder towards Christ.
The eventual long term effect of ThinkOfOne's teaching is the heart becomes frigid, ice cold towards the Son of God.
Without question Ghost's instructions starts out with a heart ice cold towards God and Christ and ends at near absolute zero.
The accumulative effect of Jehovah's Witness teaching at the hands of Galveston is from lukewarm towards Christ to cold towards Michael the archangel, who you have been duped into believing is Jesus Christ.
Which one of these posters inspires you EVER to want to say "Lord Jesus, I love You." ?
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I love the Lord Jesus because I found I could come to Him just as I was. that does not mean God's infinite toleration. It means God has a plan of redemption. It means He looks beyond our faults to see our real need.
For this you may open your whole being to Jesus Christ in trust, and eventually in love.
Start where you are. Come to Christ where you are knowing little but telling Him you love Him. And if you don't think you love Him very much then confess to Christ that you WANT to love Him more.
Like this
O Lord Jesus, I love You. I just love You Lord. I read of You in the Gospels. Lord Jesus You attract me. I love You.
So you feel that you really do not love the Lord Jesus very much. That is okay if you would listen to the word of God. "We love Him because He first loved us." That is First John 1:19.
If you feel you do not really love God very much, you can speak to Him -
Lord, You first loved me. I have little feeling for You. But Lord Jesus You First loved me.
If you speak to God that He first loved you while you were helpless and hopelessly dead in your sins, soon YOUR heart will in response begin to love the Lord Jesus. You will echo His love which He initiated FIRST towards you in your fallen sinful state.
"But God commends His own love toward us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." (Rom. 5:8)
I respect other teachings in the public square. I recommend those here that cause your heart to warm up in love toward Jesus Christ
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Oh, if my posts cause the heart to be more and more frosty towards the Lord Jesus, stop reading them.
But I present to you One who had the solution to all your woes even before you were born. How can we not love such a wonderful Savior, Jesus our Savior.
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@sonship saidYou really cannot get your Satanic church nonsense out of you head can you. I can understand. It took me about 15 to 20 yrs to accomplish that. It is only after erasing their foolish doctrines and teachings from you mind, can you truly appreciate the teachings of Christ.
The accumulative effect of Rajk999's teaching is the heart becomes colder and colder towards the Lord Jesus Christ.
The long term accumulative effect of Divegeester's teaching is the same. The heart becomes colder and colder towards Christ.
The eventual long term effect of ThinkOfOne's teaching is the heart becomes frigid, ice cold towards the Son of God.
Without q ...[text shortened]... hich one of these posters inspires you EVER to want to say "Lord Jesus, I love You." ?
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Your feeling warm to Jesus Christ means nothing to God. Your personal feelings is of no relevance to whether or not you get eternal life in the Kingdom of God. Trust me Jesus said so. I bet the priest and the Levite had warm feelings to God. I bet the Lord Lord Christians felt warm towards to Jesus. Jesus will cast them out of the Kingdom of God as he will cast out you as well
Similarly your profession 'I love you Jesus Christ' is worthless too. You think Jesus is a fool to be swayed by your mouth worship?
Love for Jesus Christ MUST BE DEMONSTRATED by following His commandments. That is the one and only thing that counts.
Jesus said these things. I have quoted these references already so dont ask for proof.
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@Rajk999
Whenever I asked you to specifically IDENTIFY what was Satanic in the passages I used, you cannot point it put.
So your feeling warm to Jesus Christ means nothing to God.
Blind fool! The Bible ends with His BRIDE in a marriage. (Rev. 21,22)
And you say the love of Christ's redeemed means nothing.
Blind fool.
Your personal feelings is of no relevance to whether or not you get eternal life in the Kingdom of God.
Blind fool!
"You shall LOVE the Lord your God ..."
The climax of the whole bible is the MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB.
A BRIDE and a BRIDEGROOM is the climax of the revelation - a divine and eternal romance. Blind fool.
And you say the love of His redeemed means nothing for entering into the kingdom of God.
Love of the indwelling Lord Jesus empowers man to obey the commands of the Lord Jesus.
" ... If anyone LOVES Me, he will keep My word, and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make an abode with him." (John 14;23)
And you come along babbling that our love means nothing.
He manifests Himself to those who love Him.
"He who has My commandments and keeps them, he is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will manifest Myself to him." (John 14:21)
You are just to blinded with self confidence to realize His FIRST commandment is to believe in Him.
Similarly your profession 'I love you Jesus Christ' is worthless as well.
Worthless advice again.
"Grace be with all those who love our Lord Jesus Christ in incorruptibility" (Eph. 6:24)
You think Jesus is a fool to be swayed by your mouth worship? Love for Jesus Christ MUST BE DEMONSTRATED ...
Stop right there. I NEVER wrote "love but don't demonstrate it."
Jesus said these things. I have quoted these references already so dont ask for proof.
I didn't ask for your proof of His requirement for kingdom living. I asked for proof that I ever taught - "LOVE but don't demonstrate it." I never wrote, "Believe but don't obey." I never wrote "CALL ON THE LORD but do not follow the Lord."
Of this you have no proof that I have taught such things.
So off with you and your blindness.
04 Sep 19
@sonship saidCall me blind fool all you like. Your very first point is contrary to the bible.
@Rajk999
Whenever I asked you to specifically IDENTIFY what was Satanic in the passages I used, you cannot point it put.
So your feeling warm to Jesus Christ means nothing to God.
Blind fool! The Bible ends with His BRIDE in a marriage. (Rev. 21,22)
And you say the love of Christ's redeemed means nothing.
Blind fool.
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Of this you have no proof that I have taught such things.
So off with you and your blindness.
The church or the members is the BODY OF CHRIST.
The bride of Christ is the New Jerusalem.
You are not the bride of Christ. Get over it.
Your next point about loving God.
Nowhere does God or Christ ever say people must say 'I love You God' That is a gross misinterpretation. The bible says to demonstrate of the love for God, one follow the commandments and show obedience to God. God is not interested in ;I Love yous'
This now .. Love of the indwelling Lord Jesus empowers man to obey the commands of the Lord Jesus... Is not in the bible. This your church doctrine ,, worthless nonsense.