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@sonship saidMy favorite Proverbs is in the 24th I believe this goes to not wishing ill on another or even being happy about bad things when they occur to enemies. Grace is a mighty thing, I think that is why God wants us to learn it too by giving it.
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Looking forward to see the account.
Sojouner Truth's slave name, I think, was Esabella. When she was a slave with a child a white slave master simply took her young child from her. There was nothing she could do.
When she wept profusely over the stealing from her of her child, her slave master's wife mocked her -
[i] "Why are you so u ...[text shortened]... rward she looked to God for grace to forgive. I believe this testimony that I read in her biography.
Proverbs 24
Do not rejoice when your enemy falls,
and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles,
lest the Lord see it and be displeased,
and turn away his anger from him.
27 Oct 19
@divegeester saidAre you suggesting there's a topic to be discussed?
Has anyone got any idea how all this stuff is about a victim culture or what “victim culture” in the thread title is referring to?
I mean, seriously! What on earth is a "victim culture"?
27 Oct 19
I would imagine since the link called "victim culture" is the topic anyone wanting to know what the OP is all about would watch it. Now those who don't want to, can if they desire to spend days asking about it, what an enormous waste of time!
Sheesh, why bother writing asking about an OP if you don't want to watch the LINK that the OP is about. Watch it don't watch it, this isn't about my synopsis of it, it is about the LINK. For those that don't want to watch, don't, and move on.
No one has to tell me they are not going to watch it, I don't care, those that do the input is welcome.
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Proverbs 24
Do not rejoice when your enemy falls,
and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles,
lest the Lord see it and be displeased,
and turn away his anger from him.
This has been a help to me as well. (Not that I have always been faithful). Jesus in me is faithful when I turn my heart to Him.
The meek shall inherit the earth. The Meek One is Jesus Christ Who must become our life as His Spirit spreads and grows into all of our living.
Something or SomeONE living in our innermost spiritual being has an endurance and assurance about the inevitable vindication of all the promises of God.
This One has gotten into the being of the believer in Christ. His capacity to forgive and more so to forget is too great. At times I just have to go to Him and confess that I cannot forgive an offense.
But Lord Jesus, YOU in me can forgive this person. So Lord Jesus I take You. Lord, You in me forgive this offending person.
Christ loves to hear this kind of dependence upon Him. The Father loves that we realize that only Christ is absolute for the will of the Father and only Christ living in us can express the godliness that the Father seeks in His children.
Abraham and the godly patriarchs lived in a country. But they sought for "a better country". That is that whole salvation of God that was His promise. I don't mean Heaven itself. I mean a country whose source is purely from heaven - "the kingdom of the heavens" in Matthew.
It is one thing, and a legitimate one to want to make one's earthly country better.
It is another thing thought to be a sojourner on this earth living for "a better country" as the kingdom of God to come.
"But as it is, they longed after a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed of them, to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them." (Hebrews 11:16)
This city is the prevailing church life now but the full New Jerusalem in the future - the city whose builder and architect is God - God and man mingled, united, and interwoven in life and nature but not in the Godhead.
27 Oct 19
@sonship saidWe really do need to be closer to God, and that should be the goal. There is nothing we can do to draw God to us, no task we perform; we can give Him nothing that isn't already His. This life is about God giving to us Himself, which He does in Christ when we put anything before God is it to our harm, our sins, those who sin against us, our lusts, this world. Jesus says, take my yoke upon us and learn of Him, what is more, meaningful than that?
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Proverbs 24
Do not rejoice when your enemy falls,
and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles,
lest the Lord see it and be displeased,
and turn away his anger from him.
This has been a help to me as well. (Not that I have always been faithful). Jesus in me is faithful when I turn my heart to Him.
The meek shall inherit the earth. T ...[text shortened]... tect is God - God and man mingled, united, and interwoven in life and nature but not in the Godhead.
Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
27 Oct 19
@fmf saidKellyJay, does the nearly hour-long video in the OP touch upon this kind of thing?
OP: Is there a cure for today’s victim culture?
The candidacy and presidency of Donald Trump is clearly a product of "victim culture" in the U.S. I wonder whether any of the American Christians here - especially those who mught support him or who voted for him - believe that he is providing the "cure" in the sense that the word is used in the OP?
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We really do need to be closer to God, and that should be the goal. There is nothing we can do to draw God to us, no task we perform; we can give Him nothing that isn't already His. This life is about God giving to us Himself, which He does in Christ when we put anything before God is it to our harm, our sins, those who sin against us, our lusts, this world. Jesus says, take my yoke upon us and learn of Him, what is more, meaningful than that?
Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
My comments will be skewed to try to address the "victim culture" matter.
The Christian must go from this kind of culture to an "Overcomer culture" [so to speak.] Christ in us is that victorious man who said that He had overcome the world.
"These things I have spoken to you that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have affliction, but take courage; I have overcome the world." (John 16:33)
It is good to start each new day with a praise - " Lord Jesus, thankyou that You HAVE overcome the world. Yesterday is under the blood. Tomorrow is not hear yet. Lord I only have today, a new day. And Lord, You have overcome the world."
Each new day it is also good to praise Him that "Greater is He who is in you then he who is in the world." (1 John 4:4)
The greater One, the Overcomer has been received into the heart of the believer.
Now Jesus did not say that in the world you will NOT have affliction but that you certainly would. BUT ... He has overcome. And living in the believer He can overcome AGAIN this time wearing us upon Him, so to speak.
From an afflicted victim to a praising one "one spirit with the Lord" with the Victor - the resurrected Lord Jesus.
Christ became a victory, conquering, world overcoming Spirit of divine life.
"the last Adam became a life giving Spirit" (1 Cor. 15:45b)
But we cannot release this grace always alone. God has it calibrated that it is more released in fellowship of the body of Christ - the mystical oneness of love and fellowship.
Too much needs to be said about this - moving from the afflicted victim to the one one spirit with the Victor, the Overcomer, He who lives in us and has overcome the world.
"You are of God, little children, and you have overcome them because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world." (1 John 4:4)
27 Oct 19
@kellyjay saidAwesome message I listen to 3 of his last night.
[youtube]9g1GzId_HKc[/youtube]
Is there a cure for today’s victim culture? | Michael Ramsden
53 minutes 30 sec
I put this in the culture Forum no interest, I find this fascinating and wonder if any here would listen and given their opinion?
@divegeester saidAvoid scrutiny?
And you’ve been rudely ignored for no other reason that KellyJay wants to avoid scrutiny.
“Shalom” (sic)
I think rather KJ wishes to avoid being trolled. A good example is your post above.
Irrational nonsense that has no bearing on the topic.