17 Oct 09
Originally posted by whodey'virthure of ahteism'?
Does anyone think there is a virture in being an atheist? Perhaps you view yourself as more rational than the person of faith? Perhaps you view yourself as the defender of truth in that you only support what you can prove?
Are you drunk?
17 Oct 09
Originally posted by whodeyI don't think there's any virtue in believing or not.
Does anyone think there is a virture in being an atheist? Perhaps you view yourself as more rational than the person of faith? Perhaps you view yourself as the defender of truth in that you only support what you can prove?
Virtue arises out of how you live your life. In my experience that has very little to do with belief or lack of it.
17 Oct 09
Originally posted by amannionIndeed, virture is derived from HOW you live your life. However, is not how you live your life based upon what you believe?
I don't think there's any virtue in believing or not.
Virtue arises out of how you live your life. In my experience that has very little to do with belief or lack of it.
17 Oct 09
Originally posted by whodeyI think there is virtue in being honest - with yourself and with others. I am less clear as to why one should seek to be virtuous.
Does anyone think there is a virture in being an atheist? Perhaps you view yourself as more rational than the person of faith? Perhaps you view yourself as the defender of truth in that you only support what you can prove?
I find that more atheists than Christians are honest when it comes to their beliefs but that is not a universal rule in any way.
I certainly view myself as more rational than the average theist - though I have spoken to rather irrational atheists as well. I am not sure if being rational is a virtue. I guess being irrational can make life a bit more interesting. Certainly when it comes to love, I have been somewhat irrational in the past, and I don't think I regret it. But I am honest about it and admit that I was irrational.
17 Oct 09
Originally posted by twhiteheadOk, ok, perhaps I did have a litttle much to drink last night. In fact, it seems I made the video of the day. You can watch me if you like.
[b]I think there is virtue in being honest - with yourself and with others.
http://www.glenbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/31982/
17 Oct 09
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Originally posted by amannionWhat I mean is, you claim to believe in "other" principles. So it is by your beliefs that you live your life. THat is why our beliefs are so vital to us.
Perhaps for you, but since I don't believe I must live my life on other principles.
Having said that, are we really that much different? Christ claimed that the two biggy laws were to love God with all your heart, and soul, and mind and to do unto others as they would do to you. If you obey these two laws, then you keep the entire law.
So how about it, can we at least agree with the golden rule of doing unto others as they would have done to you?
17 Oct 09
Originally posted by twhiteheadYou raise an interesting point here. In fact, love is what gives our life meaning. So essentially you are saying that the most vital aspect to our existence is rooted in something irrational and not tangible.
I Certainly when it comes to love, I have been somewhat irrational in the past, and I don't think I regret it. But I am honest about it and admit that I was irrational.
17 Oct 09
Originally posted by WulebgrI think it is kinda like the scripture that says to be a doer of the word, and not a hearer only. What good is the message if you do not apply it to your life? If you don't apply it, it will shrival up and die. You might say that you should use it or lose it.
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Proper application of proper principles produces virtu. Neither atheism nor theism necessarily produce these principles, although either may.