17 Feb 18
Originally posted by @fmfThe Bible is the final authority.
You can decide which is "right" if you want and then declare the rest wrong.
I feel no need to apply the No True Scotsman logical fallacy to it.
You’re relying on fallible men to tell you about an infallible God. Better to read the New Testament, which, though written by men, was done so under the guidance and influence of God’s infallible Holy Spirit.
17 Feb 18
Originally posted by @fmfJesus commanded us to believe on Him. We are made righteous (in right standing with God) through this belief.
Don't you have to do what Jesus commanded you to do?
If you’re referencing good works, we are able to do good works through the leading of God’s Holy Spirit that indwells Christians. In other words, we don’t do the good works on our own but ideally are an instrument of God’s Holy Spirit.
Originally posted by @romans1009The only people it's for and who read it are "fallible men". It's given rise to tens of thousands of denominations, sects and cults.
The Bible is the final authority. You’re relying on fallible men to tell you about an infallible God.
Originally posted by @romans1009Don't you have to do specific acts and works that Jesus commanded you to do?
Jesus commanded us to believe on Him. We are made righteous (in right standing with God) through this belief.
If you’re referencing good works, we are able to do good works through the leading of God’s Holy Spirit that indwells Christians. In other words, we don’t do the good works on our own but ideally are an instrument of God’s Holy Spirit.
17 Feb 18
Originally posted by @romans1009I am not concerned with sample sizes. I just converse with self-described Christians and see what they do, what they have to say, and how they seem to be affected by what they believe.
Then how do you know your sample size is acceptable under qualitative research?
17 Feb 18
Originally posted by @romans1009So you look after your mother - for example - because of "God’s Holy Spirit"?
In other words, we don’t do the good works on our own but ideally are an instrument of God’s Holy Spirit.
17 Feb 18
Originally posted by @fmfFallible men do indeed read it, but if they call upon God to give them understanding, they will learn what God is imparting through it.
The only people it's for and who read it are "fallible men". It's given rise to tens of thousands of denominations, sects and cults.
I think, though this is just my opinion, that parts of the Bible are similar to how Jesus occasionally taught using parables that even His disciples could not initially discern.
Originally posted by @fmfThen you’re likely coming to an incorrect opinion/conclusion about Christianity because the number of people you’re forming this opinion and conclusion on are nowhere near a large enough sample given how many people identify as Christians in the world.
I am not concerned with sample sizes. I just converse with self-described Christians and see what they do, what they have to say, and how they seem to be affected by what they believe.
Originally posted by @fmfI do much more than “look after” my mother as her sole caregiver, as I’ve said at least three times before, but certainly God’s Holy Spirit within me has made me a more conscientious and compassionate caregiver.
So you look after your mother - for example - because of "God’s Holy Spirit"?
Originally posted by @romans1009More "conscientious and compassionate" than whom?
I do much more than “look after” my mother as her sole caregiver, as I’ve said at least three times before, but certainly God’s Holy Spirit within me has made me a more conscientious and compassionate caregiver.
Yourself, prior to 4 years ago?
17 Feb 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Every single self-identifying Christian yields information about Christianity as far as I am concerned because I pay no attention the attempts by diverse Christians to squeeze the realities of Christianity through their innumerable personal No True Scotsmen filters.
Then you’re likely coming to an incorrect opinion/conclusion about Christianity because the number of people you’re forming this opinion and conclusion on are nowhere near a large enough sample given how many people identify as Christians in the world.
Originally posted by @wolfe63We just had another rampage of someone shooting dead unarmed students in a public school.
I saw a bumper sticker not long ago. It stated:
"Jesus, please save me from your followers!"
Because this Forum seems to be dominated by Christian Theology; I think I'd rather enjoy learning about other beliefs and philosophies.
The current right-wing religious movement in the USA is filled with hypocrisy and is driving me away.
I wonder of the ACLU is going to go after all those teachers and students who may have been praying to God for their lives at the school - you know - separation of church and state.
Originally posted by @sonshipIn what way is "teachers and students ...praying" an issue of "separation of church and state"?
I wonder of the ACLU is going to go after all those teachers and students who may have been praying to God for their lives at the school - you know - separation of church and state.
Originally posted by @fmfU got this with one eye open lmfao
More "conscientious and compassionate" than whom?
Yourself, prior to 4 years ago?