What does Jesus want from us?

Originally posted by chaney3
That is sound advice, and much appreciated. I'm impressed.
I rarely see this side of you. Thanks.

You're welcome, but I'm not trying to impress you.
Your rarely see it, because I rarely post like that.

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
That particular pie can be cut up any number of ways.

OK, I'll admit that firmware programming is a fundamentally different task, but he rest? No, those aren't different types of programmers, those are different types of jobs programmers might do. I have done a wide variety of programming over the years and had jobs that didn't involve programming at all. I didn't morph into a different 'type' of programmer each time I changed jobs.

Originally posted by DeepThought
If you haven't read them then it's not clear what you are basing your earlier statement that you are not particularly impressed with the teachings of Jesus.

I am basing it on what I know about them and what I have read.
Are you impressed by Chinese philosophy?

Originally posted by Rajk999
You were talking about trusting God and Christ hence the focus on what Christ preached.

I guess you cannot find your reference.

The Bible is full of references for trusting in God. That you need references tells me you are ignorant about faith in God.

You're the one that said he can provide a scriptural reference for your assertion.

I guess you're just a phony.

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
I've already explained the fallacy of this question on this thread as has rajk999. I'm pretty sure that I've explained it to you in the past and probably more than once.

Now if you could cite where Jesus, while He walked the Earth, said that it was impossible for someone to stop committing sin, then you'd have something. But you can't, so you continue ...[text shortened]... d the Earth. Evidently you can't otherwise you would and you wouldn't continue to stoop so low.

I asked you a simple yes or no question. You have made the claim that there is a transformation that causes one not to sin. If you haven't had that transformation then you are full of it, and a phony.

Originally posted by josephw
The Bible is full of references for trusting in God. That you need references tells me you are ignorant about faith in God.

You're the one that said he can provide a scriptural reference for your assertion.

I guess you're just a phony.

You are missing a few screws.

Here is what the references are for:

I can show you where this is stated by Christ -
..obedience to the teachings of Jesus Christ is how one procures salvation.

So could you provide a reference for this doctrine by Jesus Christ?
obedience is the evidence of salvation?

I provided several references.

You provided none ... why ?? ... there are none to provide.

Originally posted by josephw
I asked you a simple yes or no question. You have made the claim that there is a transformation that causes one not to sin. If you haven't had that transformation then you are full of it, and a phony.

Actually, the context of my post was about themes / concepts of what Jesus taught while He walked the Earth. Context is important. As such, your question is not relevant.

As I said:

I've already explained the fallacy of this question on this thread as has rajk999. I'm pretty sure that I've explained it to you in the past and probably more than once.

Now if you could cite where Jesus, while He walked the Earth, said that it was impossible for someone to stop committing sin, then you'd have something. But you can't, so you continue to resort to asking the same illogical question as if it had some sort of relevance.

I can back up my position with the words of Jesus while He walked the Earth. Evidently you can't otherwise you would and you wouldn't continue to stoop so low.

Originally posted by twhitehead
OK, I'll admit that firmware programming is a fundamentally different task, but he rest? No, those aren't different types of programmers, those are different types of jobs programmers might do. I have done a wide variety of programming over the years and had jobs that didn't involve programming at all. I didn't morph into a different 'type' of programmer each time I changed jobs.

It's remarkable how much you struggle with abstract concepts.

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
It's remarkable how much you struggle with abstract concepts.

Have you considered the possibility that my understanding is just so far beyond yours that you don't understand my responses?
Its remarkable how you pretend that everyone you disagree with is 'struggling with abstract concepts' or in some other way incapable of understanding your posts. You have accused me of failing to understand a number of things in the past week or two, but never once been able to actually demonstrate my lack of understanding. Instead you have used the claim to try and get out of discussing something further. What is interesting is how you have no problem continuing discussions with people less capable of demonstrating flaws in your position.

Originally posted by twhitehead
Have you considered the possibility that my understanding is just so far beyond yours that you don't understand my responses?
Its remarkable how you pretend that everyone you disagree with is 'struggling with abstract concepts' or in some other way incapable of understanding your posts. You have accused me of failing to understand a number of things in t ...[text shortened]... problem continuing discussions with people less capable of demonstrating flaws in your position.

The key phrase was the one you responded to: "That particular pie can be cut up any number of ways." And it "can" be cut up any number of ways. It does not in any way require the individual to "morph" into anything.

Hissy fit done now?

BTW, I think you missed DT's point. But if you remain true to form, you'll have no doubt that you didn't.

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
The key phrase was the one you responded to: "That particular pie can be cut up any number of ways." And it "can" be cut up any number of ways. It does not in any way require the individual to "morph" into anything.

And your point is? Were you under the illusion that I didn't understand your post? On the contrary, you appear to have totally failed to understand my response. Oh well. The biggest talkers are usually the smallest brains.

Hissy fit done now?
Never had a hissy fit.
Is your question dodging posturing done yet?

BTW, I think you missed DT's point. But no doubt you're convinced that you didn't.
Yes, I am convinced that I didn't. I am also convinced that telling me I did over and over without demonstrating that I did, will just convince me that I am right and you know it.

Originally posted by twhitehead
And your point is? Were you under the illusion that I didn't understand your post? On the contrary, you appear to have totally failed to understand my response. Oh well. The biggest talkers are usually the smallest brains.

[b]Hissy fit done now?
Never had a hissy fit.
Is your question dodging posturing done yet?

BTW, I think you missed DT's ...[text shortened]... nd over without demonstrating that I did, will just convince me that I am right and you know it.

Okey dokey

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Okey dokey

I'll take that as an admission of guilt.

Originally posted by twhitehead
I'll take that as an admission of guilt.

It's remarkable how much you struggle with abstract concepts.

Originally posted by josephw
The Bible is full of references for trusting in God. That you need references tells me you are ignorant about faith in God.

You're the one that said he can provide a scriptural reference for your assertion.

I guess you're just a phony.

Why are you bothering with someone who thinks they can earn their salvation?