Originally posted by ScriabinThe problem is that there are many wonderful guys in history. Some of whom have been ignored because of the attention that Jesus was given.
but he was a wonderful guy -- and think of all the people who would lose their authority if we accepted the idea that Jesus was just a man, like the Buddha, with some interesting ideas.
Most of the people who would lose their authority if we accepted the fact that Jesus was just a man deserve to lose their authority.
Originally posted by generalissimoSo the whole world believes in the divinity of Jesus now?
What if all religions were wrong, and failed to understand what God is really about?
Maybe we didn't get what Jesus' message was all about.
If we had, our world would have been much better.
Of course, this is just a question, it may not be true, but anyway let's think out of the box just this time.
Originally posted by scherzoWhat if all religions were wrong, and failed to understand what God is really about?
He didn't bother to mention any of the holy figures of the other 2/3 of the world. Maybe Mohammed was correct.
Maybe we didn't get what Jesus' (and/or Mohammed's) messages were all about.
If we had, our world would have been much better.
Of course, this is just a question, it may not be true, but anyway let's think out of the box just this time.
Fixed: Can we continue now?🙄
Originally posted by divegeesterWhat about the Jews, the Buddhists, the Hindus, ....
[b]What if all religions were wrong, and failed to understand what God is really about?
Maybe we didn't get what Jesus' (and/or Mohamed's) messages were all about.
If we had, our world would have been much better.
Of course, this is just a question, it may not be true, but anyway let's think out of the box just this time.
Fixed: Can we continue now?🙄[/b]
ok, I'll shut up here now.
Originally posted by PsychoPawnI think you are challenged by irony or sarcasm, no?
The problem is that there are many wonderful guys in history. Some of whom have been ignored because of the attention that Jesus was given.
Most of the people who would lose their authority if we accepted the fact that Jesus was just a man deserve to lose their authority.
Originally posted by scherzomaybe he wasn't. Maybe he was as big an egomaniac or just plan maniac as most so-called "holy men" or "prophets."
He didn't bother to mention any of the holy figures of the other 2/3 of the world. Maybe Mohammed was correct.
I know, I know, he's your fav -- big deal.
Verse of the Moment
Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun:
During the pre-Islamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them.
The Hadith, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 188
What about it, going to issue a fatwa now?
Originally posted by divegeesterGoing by that logic, since i'm no expert on the matter and in fact am an atheist (you caught me on the humanism bit), does that mean that someone who doesn't believe in Jesus and/or God, but lives his life abiding by Jesus' and God's laws, will still be damned for eternity?
Christianity, (Jesus) teaches that “without me you can do nothing”, and that the purpose of spiritual regeneration is to enable the believer to experience a new spirit enabled life through the power of the spirit of god.
I'm not trying to act silly, I am genuinely curious
Originally posted by banx99silly question
Going by that logic, since i'm no expert on the matter and in fact am an atheist (you caught me on the humanism bit), does that mean that someone who doesn't believe in Jesus and/or God, but lives his life abiding by Jesus' and God's laws, will still be damned for eternity?
I'm not trying to act silly, I am genuinely curious