Originally posted by RBHILLI don't know about the blacks help burning churches with white folks but let's get back to the issue of you contemplating being a gay white supremist.
So, You don't think that some BLACKS went out with them to?
I know some did and help burn churches with them white folks.
Being Jew has nothing to do with the KKK.
Where did that come from? Man, when you reveal you let it all hang out don't ya?
Originally posted by DarfiusHe is like the Anti-Christ from Revelation, he offered peace and then he broke it.
That was wise, RBHILL. No matter how people dress it up, it's MODERATE Muslims that DON'T support killing, because they don't adhere to the Koran.
Let's compare the founder of Christianity to the founder of Islam.
Jesus lived the only sinless life. Even seculars agree this guy was good through and through. Brilliant, loving.
Mohammed slaughte ...[text shortened]... painful ways.
Now, who does a mature Christian want to be like?
How about a mature Muslim?
Originally posted by Joe FistI was saying that KKK people are Gay for burning Churches it is like saying words like for ex. sik, Phat stuff like that.
I don't know about the blacks help burning churches with white folks but let's get back to the issue of you contemplating being a gay white supremist.
Where did that come from? Man, when you reveal you let it all hang out don't ya?
You know, years ago I watched a debate between a Muslim scholar and a Christian scholar. It was a good debate: both men were courteous and civil, even though they were not shy about making their arguments.
However, when the Muslim described, and argued against, the Christian doctrine of the Trinity, it became apparent that he was not really well-versed in that part of Christian doctrine. What he described was certainly not my understanding of the Trinity, nor that of most Christians I had ever known. I concluded that he had probably not studied it very carefully.
It made me wonder what kind of misconceptions I might have about Islam, or any other religion for that matter. It made me doubt that I could just pick up a copy of the Qur’an and properly understand it—as Muslims understand it—any more than a Muslim could understand concepts in the Bible that perhaps they’d never been exposed to. It made me doubt that I could really understand another religion by just listening to what members of my religion had to say about it. I decided that, if I couldn’t accept what a Muslim was saying about the core doctrines of my religion, they might not accept what outsiders told them about the core doctrines of theirs.
So I started reading a lot about some of those other religions, reading independent scholars who seemed to have no axes to grind, and reading the best scholars I could find from those religions themselves. I’m no expert, but I gained a lot of knowledge and understanding, and I try not to talk outside the limits of what I’ve learned. And I am not going to engage in a debate of any length about Islam—or Judaism or Hinduism or Buddhism—with someone who has not at least begun to undertake the same kind of study. No one, of course, is obligated to; that kind of thing is not of interest to everyone, and that’s okay. There’s a lot of things that don’t interest me.
Originally posted by RBHILLRight but back to the gay thing. So how did your decision come down? I mean did you special order a pink KKK gown and some of the guys were telling you, "Hey man, you can't wear that. It has to be white". And did you get ticked off and say, "Well screw you then. I don't want to join your little KKK thingee. I will just become a Christian".
I was saying that KKK people are Gay for burning Churches it is like saying words like for ex. sik, Phat stuff like that.
Originally posted by CliffLandinNo it is not wrong it is the Truth.
It is ignorant to think that to be a Muslim you have to kill. I know a lot of Muslims and none of them, I repeat; NONE OF THEM, desire to kill or feel it is part of their religion to do so.
I would like someone to show me in the Qur'an were it says that in order to be a Muslim you must kill. And no paraphrasing. Let's have the whole passage. Kill ...[text shortened]... hat killing is wrong. To blanketly say Muslims must kill is not only ignorant, but plain wrong.
Like I said you look at the Crhistians of the past.
Don't look at Christians look at the Cross.
Off the subject some people don't understand and think the O.T.people went to heaven for good works.
O.T. people went to heaven for the faith that they had in the coming massiah. N.T> people go to heaven for looking back at the Cross by faith.
Originally posted by DarfiusPlease give us the passage from the Qur'an that says that all Muslims must kill non-believers. Just saying it is so doesn't make it so.
That was wise, RBHILL. No matter how people dress it up, it's MODERATE Muslims that DON'T support killing, because they don't adhere to the Koran.
Let's compare the founder of Christianity to the founder of Islam.
Jesus lived the only sinless life. Even seculars agree this guy was good through and through. Brilliant, loving.
Mohammed slaughte ...[text shortened]... painful ways.
Now, who does a mature Christian want to be like?
How about a mature Muslim?
Originally posted by RBHILLExactly.
No it is not wrong it is the Truth.
Like I said you look at the Crhistians of the past.
Don't look at Christians look at the Cross.
Off the subject some people don't understand and think the O.T.people went to heaven for good works.
O.T. people went to heaven for the faith that they had in the coming massiah. N.T> people go to heaven for looking back at the Cross by faith.
Originally posted by Joe FistI was making fun of KKK people but if you want to defend KKK people I will call you a RACIST MYSELF
Right but back to the gay thing. So how did your decision come down? I mean did you special order a pink KKK gown and some of the guys were telling you, "Hey man, you can't wear that. It has to be white". And did you get ticked off ...[text shortened]... o join your little KKK thingee. I will just become a Christian".
JOE FIST IS A RACIST.
Originally posted by CliffLandinWHile I find it for you, how about you address my post about the founders.
Please give us the passage from the Qur'an that says that all Muslims must kill non-believers. Just saying it is so doesn't make it so.
Or do Muslims want to be like someone other than Muhammed??
I am beginning to absolutely despair for this site. When bigots can write incredibly ignorant statements like "True Muslims are hate because to be a true Muslim one must kill for there belief" and instead of being vilified for such filth, are actually supported and praised by other members, I am left stunned. This is a worldwide chess site with I presume a significant number of Muslim players online; I wonder how they feel to be told by an idiot that in order for them to "truly" practice their faith, they "must" be killers!
If the other members of this site will not speak up against the incredible wave of intolerance and bigotry that is sweeping over this site, I may have no choice but to leave it. I do not support restrictions on speech, but if the majority of members here have no problem with the statements made in the last page by RBHILL and Darfius then I may want to take myself elsewhere. If I wanted to be part of a site where sentiments like those expressed by these bigots are commonplace and acceptable, I'd join the American Nazi Party site or the KKK site. I call on everyone on this site to condemn in the strongest way possible the comments made by these two idiotic, ignorant, intolerant, and bigoted buffoons.
Originally posted by RBHILLOkay, I'm a racist. How you doing?
I was making fun of KKK people but if you want to defend KKK people I will call you a RACIST MYSELF
JOE FIST IS A RACIST.
So back to the gown. Was it sparkly? Can you get KKK purses to accessorize with the gown so you can be, "KKK on the town" or "KKK goes to tea"?
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