What must I do to be saved from hell?

Originally posted by daniel58
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Why would He want to do that? You could just commit suicide, He will take you when He is ready not you, He doesn't answer every prayer as in exactly what they want, so if I asked if He would let me kill you then He wouldn't grant it because me killing you would be a sin.

How exactly does god grant such a prayer - I want to kill my boss god, please grant me this?
Obviously not that one of course since killing isn't allowed, but how does he grant these? How does he manifest to the prayerful?

Originally posted by amannion
How exactly does god grant such a prayer - I want to kill my boss god, please grant me this?
Obviously not that one of course since killing isn't allowed, but how does he grant these? How does he manifest to the prayerful?

He doesn't, What? Different ways.

Originally posted by daniel58
He doesn't, What? Different ways.

It doesn't grant your prayer?
What different ways? Does it come to you in person and speak, 'sorry Daniel I can't fulfill that prayer today, maybe next week'? Or does it send you a text message, 'r u ok'? Or does it send a pillar of flame, or a burning bush, or little bits of food like snow from the sky, or ...

... is it a voice in your head?

Originally posted by amannion
It doesn't grant your prayer?
What different ways? Does it come to you in person and speak, 'sorry Daniel I can't fulfill that prayer today, maybe next week'? Or does it send you a text message, 'r u ok'? Or does it send a pillar of flame, or a burning bush, or little bits of food like snow from the sky, or ...

... is it a voice in your head?

It could be a voice in your head usually somebody helps you or you can do something you couldn't do before with someone's help.

Originally posted by daniel58
It could be a voice in your head usually somebody helps you or you can do something you couldn't do before with someone's help.

Usually somebody helps you?
So, that could be just that somebody helped you at that time.
It could be a voice in your head?
So, how do you know that's not you talking to yourself as most people do?

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Significant departure from the thread topic noted.

Considering there is no such thing as hell, who cares if we depart from a non-existent topic?

Note to Daniel: Are the voices coming from inside or outside your head?

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Considering there is no such thing as hell, who cares if we depart from a non-existent topic?

Note to Daniel: Are the voices coming from inside or outside your head?

How to Pray: Prayers That Get Answered

Have you ever known someone who really trusts God? When I was an atheist, I had a good friend who prayed often. She would tell me every week about something she was trusting God to take care of. And every week I would see God do something unusual to answer her prayer. Do you know how difficult it is for an atheist to observe this week after week? After a while, "coincidence" begins to sound like a very weak argument.

So why would God answer my friend's prayers? The biggest reason is that she had a relationship with God. She wanted to follow God. And she actually listened to what he said. In her mind, God had the right to direct her in life, and she welcomed him doing just that! When she prayed for things, it was a natural part of her relationship with God. She felt very comfortable coming to God with her needs, her concerns, and whatever issues were current in her life. Furthermore, she was convinced, from what she read in the Bible, that God wanted her to rely on him like that.

She pretty much exhibited what this statement from the Bible says, "This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us."1 "For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous and his ears are attentive to their prayer..."2

So, Why Doesn't God Answer Everyone's Prayers?

It may be because they don't have a relationship with God. They may know that God exists, and they might even worship God from time to time. But those who never seem to have their prayers answered probably don't have a relationship with him. Further, they have never received from God complete forgiveness for their sin. What does that have to do with it you ask? Here is an explanation. "Surely the arm of the Lord is not too short to save, nor his ear too dull to hear. But your iniquities have separated you from your God. Your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear."3

It's pretty natural to feel that separation from God. When people begin to ask God for something, what usually takes place? They begin with, "God, I really need your help with this problem..." And then there's a pause, followed by a restart... "I realize that I'm not a perfect person, that I actually have no right to ask you for this..." There's an awareness of personal sin and failure. And the person knows that it's not just them; that God is aware of it too. There's a feeling of, "Who am I kidding?" What they may not know is how they can receive God's forgiveness for all their sin. They might not know that they can come into a relationship with God so that God will hear them. This is the foundation for God answering your prayer.

How to Pray: The Foundation

You must first begin a relationship with God. Imagine some guy named Mike decides to ask the president of Princeton University (whom Mike doesn't even know) to co-sign a car loan for him. Mike would have zero chance of that happening. (We're assuming that the president of Princeton is not an idiot.) However, if that same president's daughter asked her dad to co-sign a car loan for her, it would be no problem. Relationship matters.

With God, when the person is actually a child of God, when the person belongs to God, he knows them and hears their prayers. Jesus said, "I am the good shepherd. I know my sheep and my sheep know me...my sheep listen to my voice. I know them and they follow me. I give them eternal life and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand."4

When it comes to God then, do you really know him and does he know you? Do you have a relationship with him that warrants God answering your prayers? Or is God pretty distant, pretty much just a concept in your life? If God is distant, or you're not sure that you know God, here is how you can begin a relationship with him right now: Getting Connected.

Will God Definitely Answer Your Prayer?

For those who do know him and rely on him, Jesus seems to be wildly generous in his offer: "If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be given you."5 To "remain" in him and have his words remain in them means they conduct their lives aware of him, relying on him, listening to what he says. Then they're able to ask him whatever they want. Here is another qualifier: "This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. And if we know that he hears us -- whatever we ask -- we know that we have what we asked of him."6 God answers our prayers according to his will (and according to his wisdom, his love for us, his holiness, etc.).

Where we trip up is assuming we know God's will, because a certain thing makes sense to us! We assume that there is only one right "answer" to a specific prayer, assuming certainly THAT would be God's will. And this is where it gets tough. We live within the limits of time and limits of knowledge. We have only limited information about a situation and the implications of future action on that situation. God's understanding is unlimited. How an event plays out in the course of life or history is only something he knows. And he may have purposes far beyond what we could even imagine. So, God is not going to do something simply because we determine that it must be his will.

What Does It Take? What is God Inclined to Do?

Pages and pages could be filled about God's intentions toward us. The entire Bible is a description of the kind of relationship God wants us to experience with him and the kind of life he wants to give us. Here are just a few examples:

"...the Lord longs to be gracious to you. He rises to show you compassion. For the Lord is a God of justice. Blessed are all who wait for [trust] him!"7 Did you catch that? Like someone rising out of his chair to come to your help, "He rises to show you compassion." "As for God, his way is perfect...He is a shield for all who take refuge in him."8 "The Lord delights in those who fear [reverence] him, who put their hope in his unfailing love."9

However, God's greatest display of his love and commitment to you is this: Jesus said, "Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends,"10 which is what Jesus did for us. And so, "If God is for us, who can ever be against us? Since God did not spare even his own Son but gave him up for us all, won't God, who gave us Christ, also give us everything else?"11

What about "Unanswered" Prayer?

Certainly people get sick, even die; financial problems are real, and all sorts of very difficult situations can come up. What then?

God tells us to give our concerns to him. Even as the situation remains dismal, "Cast all your anxiety on him, because he cares for you."12 The circumstances may look out of control, but they aren't. When the whole world seems to be falling apart, God can keep us together. This is when a person can be very grateful that they know God. "The Lord is near. Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all comprehension, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."13 God may provide solutions, resolutions to the problem WAY beyond what you imagined possible. Probably any Christian could list examples like this in their own lives. But if the circumstances do not improve, God can still give us his peace in the midst of it. Jesus said, "Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Do not let your heart be troubled, nor let it be fearful."14

It is at this point (when circumstances are still tough) that God asks us to continue to trust him -- to "walk by faith, not by sight" the Bible says. But it's not blind faith. It is based on the very character of God. A car traveling on the Golden Gate Bridge is fully supported by the integrity of the bridge. It doesn't matter what the driver may be feeling, or thinking about, or discussing with someone in the passenger seat. What gets the car safely to the other side is the integrity of the bridge, which the driver was willing to trust.

In the same way, God asks us to trust his integrity, his character...his compassion, love, wisdom, righteousness on our behalf. He says, "I have loved you with an everlasting love, therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you."15 "Trust in him at all times, O people. Pour out your heart before him. God is a refuge for us."16

In Summary...How to Pray

God has offered to answer the prayers of his children (those who have received him into their lives and seek to follow him). He asks us to take any concerns to him in prayer and he will act upon it according to his will. As we deal with difficulties we are to cast our cares on him and receive from him a peace that defies the circumstances. The basis for our hope and faith is the character of God himself. The better we know him, the more apt we are to trust him.




Is Hell Real? - The Basics
People across the world are asking, "Is hell real?" Can there really be a physical location of burning torment and punishment that is spoken of in the Bible? Only three in ten adults ( 31% ) see hell as an actual location: "a place of physical torment where people may be sent."1 This article answers common questions about hell and its existence. Since the Bible is the basis for the doctrine of hell, you will see it addressed and quoted in this material.

Is Hell Real? - Why Was It Created?
The question of why hell exists has perplexed many people through the ages. Countless have asked, "If God is so good, why would He create a place like hell?" This is similar to asking, "If our government is so good, why would it create prisons?" The answer seems simple enough - places like hell and prisons exist ...

Originally posted by daniel58
How to Pray: Prayers That Get Answered

Have you ever known someone who really trusts God? When I was an atheist, I had a good friend who prayed often. She would tell me every week about something she was trusting God to take care of. And every week I would see God do something unusual to answer her prayer. Do you know how difficult it is for an atheist t ...[text shortened]... ns exist ...

Nice....Now I'm not going to pick your post apart.
I would just like to say if it works for you then great! May Daniel 58 recieve a place in heaven for his great devotion to the God of his understanding.
Now prison is not like hell.
Yes I've a relationship with God-seems she is quite the joker!
Yeah ,I get it,you got to have a relationship with God to get your prayers answered.
So where do those voices come from?
Sorry I cant address every one of your points-its just that I like to simplify ...sorry

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Nice....Now I'm not going to pick your post apart.
I would just like to say if it works for you then great! May Daniel 58 recieve a place in heaven for his great devotion to the God of his understanding.
Now prison is not like hell.
Yes I've a relationship with God-seems she is quite the joker!
Yeah ,I get it,you got to have a relationship with God ...[text shortened]... from?
Sorry I cant address every one of your points-its just that I like to simplify ...sorry

God is male.

Not everybody hears voices, in fact few ever do, but thosse who do it depends it could be beside them coming from their guardian angel, it could be above them directly from God.

That's okay, sometimes I make it long on purpose so people can't answer everything, usually when I'm fed up with people, answering the same thing over and over again, to the same people. I think that was all of it, if some of it got cut off I'm sorry.