Wheels on the bottom of the Red Sea

Originally posted by sonhouse
Where is the go-to assumption the wheels are wooden? If they WERE wood, they would have rotted away like the boats that sink there also.

Don't you think it convenient they just happened on this fine now, thousands of years later and the wheels are not even encrusted? They look in great condition to me. Too great.

You guys are blinded by your lust to ...[text shortened]... ers got trapped, probably by mud but that is for science to determine not biblical speculation.

Coral had grown around some of the wheels and wheels with axle and preserved the shape. However, there is no assumption that all the wheels were made of wood. Some where apparently made of metal from what I understand. I can understand you being skeptical. However, when the evidence is considered in total, there seems to be good circumstantial evidence to conclude this to be the croosing site that the Israelites took to escape the Egyptian army, since the Mountain of the Law is located on the other side in Arabia.

Originally posted by Kepler
Is Ron Wyatt an archeologist? Ummm no, he was an anesthetist. Not so much that he is lying then, more like he doesn't know what he is talking about. Next time I want to be knocked out for surgery I'm calling Indiana Jones.

One does not have to have a degree in archeology to make archeological discoveries. The Dead Sea Scrolls were not discovered by Archeologists. It is up to God as to who he allows to discover certain artifacts. I believe many archeologists are too stupid and biased to find anything of Biblical importance anyway.

http://www.wyattmuseum.com/ronwyatt.htm

http://www.forteantimes.com/features/profiles/261/ron_wyatt_gods_archaeologist.html

Originally posted by RJHinds
One does not have to have a degree in archeology to make archeological discoveries. The Dead Sea Scrolls were not discovered by Archeologists. It is up to God as to who he allows to discover certain artifacts. I believe many archeologists are too stupid and biased to find anything of Biblical importance anyway.

http://www.wyattmuseum.com/ronwyatt.htm

http://www.forteantimes.com/features/profiles/261/ron_wyatt_gods_archaeologist.html

Let's put it another way, would you trust those who found the Dead Sea scrolls to be able to interpret them?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Some of the wheels were wood and some metal. They had metal back in those days too, so there is nothing that says they have to be all made of wood to be proper Eqyptian chariot wheels. The following is a quote from a link below:

[b]Ron Wyatt and his sons found this gold plated gold wheel below. They tried to retrieve it but as they gently lifted it, it ...[text shortened]... away and only the thin gold veneer was left.

http://www.covenantkeepers.co.uk/red_sea.htm[/b]

There is a difference between a thin veneer of gold and solid gold. The reason chariot wheels were not made of metal is simple, weight! Egyptian chariots were very lightweight affairs, so light a man could carry one on his shoulders. Solid metal wheels would have degraded performance and been more difficult to produce. Gold ornamentation on wheels and cab is attested by real chariots found in the tomb of Tutankhamun and pictorial representations of chariots in battle.

So we have wheels with a thin gold veneer. All this does is make it more likely that a shipwreck is involved. Ships were not often encrusted in gold from stem to stern so a rotted ship leaves little trace behind. If the wood inside the wheels has rotted so has the ship.

Do we know which pharaoh allegedly drowned in this incident?

Originally posted by Kepler
Let's put it another way, would you trust those who found the Dead Sea scrolls to be able to interpret them?

Not likely. However, Ron Wyatt has been doing this for 22 years and did not find these things by complete accident like the Bedouin shepherd, who did not try to interpret them anyway. Other Dead Sea Scrolls were later discovered by archeologists, who could not interpret them either, but turned them over to other experts for that. It is my understanding that Ron Wyatt had some help in his interpretations also.

Originally posted by Kepler
There is a difference between a thin veneer of gold and solid gold. The reason chariot wheels were not made of metal is simple, weight! Egyptian chariots were very lightweight affairs, so light a man could carry one on his shoulders. Solid metal wheels would have degraded performance and been more difficult to produce. Gold ornamentation on wheels and cab is ...[text shortened]... eels has rotted so has the ship.

Do we know which pharaoh allegedly drowned in this incident?

Okay, I am not an expert in all this, but it all seems reasonable to me that this interpretation would fit with the Biblical account of the Exodus of the Israelites from Egypt. Perhaps there is not solid proof, but it seems to make a good circumstantial case.

P.S. I think I have read before of speculation as to who this pharaoh was, but without real proof. But speculation seems always to be included in archeological discoveries.

http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-date-1440bc.htm

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2008/02/amenhotep-ii-as-pharaoh-of-the-exodus.aspx

Originally posted by RJHinds
Okay, I am not an expert in all this, but it all seems reasonable to me that this interpretation would fit with the Biblical account of the Exodus of the Israelites from Egypt. Perhaps there is not solid proof, but it seems to make a good circumstantial case.

P.S. I think I have read before of speculation as to who this pharaoh was, but without real pro ...[text shortened]... c.htm

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2008/02/amenhotep-ii-as-pharaoh-of-the-exodus.aspx

I was told in all seriousness that it was Ramses II. He lived to 93 and never drowned even once as far can be told. Whoever it was would have to be one of the obscure pharaohs whose bodies are not preserved.

Originally posted by Kepler
I was told in all seriousness that it was Ramses II. He lived to 93 and never drowned even once as far can be told. Whoever it was would have to be one of the obscure pharaohs whose bodies are not preserved.

I guess we can't know for sure. Speculation seems to be the nature of ancient history and archeology.