05 Feb 07
Originally posted by eatmybishopHe has a new problem. Now there are these pesky scientists checking to make sure he follows his own scientific laws. He used to be able to get away with breaking them, but now he has to deal with the scientists. He's gone from plague hurling smiter to stealthy ninja in the night!
okay, lets just say god did send his son to save us 2000 years ago, what's he been up to since?
I guess getting crucified will change anybody.
05 Feb 07
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Originally posted by eatmybishopAre we not talking about him now? Enough said. 🙂
okay, lets just say god did send his son to save us 2000 years ago, what's he been up to since?
In all fairness, how many religions have come and gone? How many gods have come and gone by the wayside? What major religions are left? It seems to me that the God of Abraham seems to dominant the world scene today, no? We have Christianity, Judism, and Islam. What say you?
06 Feb 07
Originally posted by VarqaYou might say that as soon as we die we will see his second coming, so taken in that context his second coming could be within hours.
When I read the Bible about His second coming, I get the sense that it was to happen very soon, certainly not 2000 years later. In this example Jesus tells his desciples that some of them will be round to see the kingdom of God on earth.
For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in h ...[text shortened]... which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
(King James Bible, Luke)
06 Feb 07
Originally posted by petrosianpupilHe is only quite to those who do not know him even back in Old Testament times. To those who know him, however, he is an active participant in their respective lives.
You have to wonder though. You read the bible and god was always doing big stuff. Destroying cities, plagues, parting seas, booming voices, burning bushes and the like. Then there was Jesus, always talking to everyone, miracles all over the show.
It's certainly been quiet.
06 Feb 07
Originally posted by whodeyI wonder, whodey, all these big big stuff that God's been doing: parting seas, flooding the world and killing people etc, participating in our lives? Yet there is still a fair number of people who don't believe in his existence.
He is only quite to those who do not know him even back in Old Testament times. To those who know him, however, he is an active participant in their respective lives.
What is so wrong for God to be direct and simple; why can't he simply appear before us to prove his existence? Surely that is very easy for him to do? Then all this debates would not be necessary. All of us will believe in his existence. Maybe we won't all come to love him or obey him. But at least we will believe in his existence to start with?
06 Feb 07
Originally posted by VarqaDon't forget to God a 1,000 years is like a day to him. And a day is like a 1,000 years.
When I read the Bible about His second coming, I get the sense that it was to happen very soon, certainly not 2000 years later. In this example Jesus tells his desciples that some of them will be round to see the kingdom of God on earth.
For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in h ...[text shortened]... which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
(King James Bible, Luke)
06 Feb 07
Originally posted by RBHILLAt last someone acknowledges me. Thank you, RBHILL.
Don't forget to God a 1,000 years is like a day to him. And a day is like a 1,000 years.
I know about the day being a 1000 years, but
there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God. Luke 9:27
has nothing to do with number of days. Jesus clearly says the kingdom will come before some of them die.
06 Feb 07
Originally posted by scottishinnzWere you ever biten up by bulievers or wat, why is it so hard for you to understand religion?I am a non buliever as well but I see miracles everywere either scientificaly explained either not.If there is a God his very active if you ask me.He is not so obvious as in the past but his still here.The only reason we have no more spectacular miracles is becaus we started to take care of owerselves ,we are like children who have grown up and left home to start ower own lives wit as little help as posible from ower parents, in this case God.
No it doesn't! He's God. He can do whatever he wants! Another cop out, switch brain off, answer.
06 Feb 07
Originally posted by Lord LetoI see interesting things all the time. I'm constantly amazed, in my job as a scientist, by the complexity of life. Does that lead me to conclude that "it's all magic"? Do I think to myself, "it's too complicated to understand"? Do I pacify myself with, "it's all unknowable, so I shouldn't try"? No! That point of view is sheer unadulterated laziness, and I'll have no truck with those so ignorant as to give up and shove their head in the sand because some man in a dress told them to shut up, stop asking questions and to be a good ignorant little sheep.
Were you ever biten up by bulievers or wat, why is it so hard for you to understand religion?I am a non buliever as well but I see miracles everywere either scientificaly explained either not.If there is a God his very active if you ask me.He is not so obvious as in the past but his still here.The only reason we have no more spectacular miracles is becaus ...[text shortened]... home to start ower own lives wit as little help as posible from ower parents, in this case God.
06 Feb 07
Originally posted by eatmybishopWe can only imagine.
okay, lets just say god did send his son to save us 2000 years ago, what's he been up to since?
A better question might be: What were you thinking when you posted this question?
Was it a sincer inquiry?
Was it bait for hate?
These questions are much easier to answer than the one you posed.
06 Feb 07
Originally posted by petrosianpupilIt seems, still, "You have to wonder though."
You have to wonder though. You read the bible and god was always doing big stuff. Destroying cities, plagues, parting seas, booming voices, burning bushes and the like. Then there was Jesus, always talking to everyone, miracles all over the show.
It's certainly been quiet.
Therein lies the answer .. the wonder.
06 Feb 07
Originally posted by scottishinnzss was responding to this ..
No it doesn't! He's God. He can do whatever he wants! Another cop out, switch brain off, answer.
Originally posted by Lord Leto
It tackes much more time to built something in the heart of man becaus he was given the right of free will.At least this is from a religious point of vew.
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It's the "free will" thingy you're overlooking.
Seems that's our "gift."
Of course God can do whatever He wants .. that's a given .. that's what makes Him God.
What makes you a man is that same free will, the gift .. you can do whatever you want within human limits.
For God to "prove" or "show" himself to you would be to preempt the gift.