Spirituality
01 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerDon't be silly I've made my position on the OP abundantly clear. You are just being intellectually dishonest now.
Well either he was attacking himself or he was excluding himself from the Christian group.
02 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerDo you feel rather ostentatiously casting doubt on his Christian beliefs - and therefore insinuating that he might be a liar - simply a form of the very same 'judging others' thing you were being sanctimonious about earlier on this thread?
Sometimes I find it hard to believe but sure I'll take your word for it.
02 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerGood, so that's the end of that vein of evasion then.
Sometimes I find it hard to believe but sure I'll take your word for it.
Now, back to what the Bible does or doesn't say about god creating evil...
02 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerTo be frank, I suppose one of the things I have been trying to identify is what principle has guided you in this conversation and the only thing that approximates a guiding principle for you appears to be that your need to defend your pride trumps all need to appear principled in any other respect.
Well either he was attacking himself or he was excluding himself from the Christian group.
- Joined
- 01 Oct 04
- Moves
- 12095
02 Aug 17
Originally posted by @divegeesterWho created evil? Thoughts?
Don't be silly I've made my position on the OP abundantly clear. You are just being intellectually dishonest now.
Abundantly clear indeed. 🙄
- Joined
- 01 Oct 04
- Moves
- 12095
02 Aug 17
Originally posted by @fmfSo do you think that everyone who calls themselves a Christian should be acknowledged as one regardless of how they behave?
Do you feel rather ostentatiously casting doubt on his Christian beliefs - and therefore insinuating that he might be a liar - simply a form of the very same 'judging others' thing you were being sanctimonious about earlier on this thread?
- Joined
- 01 Oct 04
- Moves
- 12095
Originally posted by @divegeesterGod does not make our choices for us, we make them ourselves so therefore we are directly responsible for our own actions and hence the evil that occurs as a result. Or do you think God is directly responsible for the evil things that we do because he gave us free will?
Becker/FMJ
can you explain how your apparent "understanding" of "god created calamities and disasters" somehow, as it is washed through your various filters, comes out as god NOT being direcltly responsible for the evil of creating those calamities and disasters?
Thanks
Originally posted by @dj2beckerWell, I take you at your word that you are a Christian regardless of how you behave, just as I do with the likes of Eladar, Suzianne and divegeester.
So do you think that everyone who calls themselves a Christian should be acknowledged as one regardless of how they behave?
02 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerDo you believe that your god figure created "Satan" and do you believe that your god figure knew what "Satan' would then go on to be and do?
God does not make our choices for us, we make them ourselves so therefore we are directly responsible for our own actions and hence the evil that occurs as a result. Or do you think God is directly responsible for the evil things that we do because he gave us free will?
02 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI was a Christian for the better part of 30 years. For you to suggest I "have no idea what it entails to be one" is a swing and a miss on your part.
Fair enough since you yourself are not one and have no idea what it entails to be one.
02 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerThese are the kinds of unsophisticated posts that make you sound like an adolescent and not a grown man who has spent adult years mixing with believers, non-believers and ex-believers and developing an understanding of the diversity and different narrative arcs there can be in the spiritual lives of people around you.
Fair enough since you yourself are not one and have no expectations or beliefs about what it entails to be one.
- Joined
- 01 Oct 04
- Moves
- 12095
02 Aug 17
Originally posted by @fmfFor the 30 years you were a Christian did you have any beliefs about what it entails to be a Christian and how a Christian should behave ?
I was a Christian for the better part of 30 years. For you to suggest I "have no idea what it entails to be one" is a swing and a miss on your part.