@philokalia saidDon't do it on my account.
Really good topic that would involve a lot of ontology, FMF.
I'll try to compose an audio monologue about it and share it here and try to address your concerns.
@philokalia saidYes is the simple answer. A fool by that definition could be righteous. I do not expect you to agree with the following but Im sure you will understand.
Would you say that fools are righteous?
Jesus said that the fool is the one who hears his commandments and do not follow them. The wise man is the one who hears his commandments and follows them.
Whose definition of a fool would you go with? You choose David because it matches your church doctrine. I choose Christ.
According to Christ, from what you have said, you would be closer to being a fool than an atheist.
02 Sep 19
@rajk999 saidQuote the scriptures please.
Yes is the simple answer. A fool by that definition could be righteous. I do not expect you to agree with the following but Im sure you will understand.
Jesus said that the fool is the one who hears his commandments and do not follow them. The wise man is the one who hears his commandments and follows them.
Whose definition of a fool would you go with? You choose Da ...[text shortened]...
According to Christ, from what you have said, you would be closer to being a fool than an atheist.
02 Sep 19
@kellyjay saidYou remind me of the movie [cant remember the name], where this woman had a 24 hour memory. Every day she did exactly the same thing and she never remembered what transpired the previous day. It was like she was doing it for the first time.
Quote the scriptures please.
Frankly I am getting tired of your retarded mentality and limited memory.
I have quoted these passages dozens of times and I would not be doing it again.
02 Sep 19
@rajk999 saidIf you are going to suggest Jesus said something show it, because I don't think what you are claiming is true! I also don't care that you are tired of having to display scripture to prove your points, mainly because half of your points cannot be proved by scripture.
You remind me of the movie [cant remember the name], where this woman had a 24 hour memory. Every day she did exactly the same thing and she never remembered what transpired the previous day. It was like she was doing it for the first time.
Frankly I am getting tired of your retarded mentality and limited memory.
I have quoted these passages dozens of times and I would not be doing it again.
02 Sep 19
So David and Christ are in conflict with one another?
There isn't a harmony?
What about passages like...
John 12 44 Then Jesus cried out, “Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. 45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me. 46 I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.
47 “If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. 49 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. 50 I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”
03 Sep 19
@philokalia saidThere are many conflicting statements in the bible. Only a blind man will not see it. This is the reason why I focus on what Jesus preached.
So David and Christ are in conflict with one another?
There isn't a harmony?
What about passages like...
John 12 44 Then Jesus cried out, “Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. 45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me. 46 I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me s ...[text shortened]... ommand leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”
03 Sep 19
@rajk999 saidSo, by your definition, everyone but you is a fool.
Yes is the simple answer. A fool by that definition could be righteous. I do not expect you to agree with the following but Im sure you will understand.
Jesus said that the fool is the one who hears his commandments and do not follow them. The wise man is the one who hears his commandments and follows them.
Whose definition of a fool would you go with? You choose Da ...[text shortened]...
According to Christ, from what you have said, you would be closer to being a fool than an atheist.
03 Sep 19
@rajk999 said"The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit."
God hears the RIGHTEOUS
The eyes of the LORD are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry. The face of the LORD is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth. The righteous cry, and the LORD heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles. The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as b ...[text shortened]... oul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate. (Psalms 34:15-22 KJV)
Do you even cringe just a little when you read that?
03 Sep 19
@rajk999 saidJesus used the term "fool" twice only, and in each case it had nothing to do with hearing His commandments.
Jesus said that the fool is the one who hears his commandments and do not follow them.
In Matthew 5:22 though is found something Jesus said that best applies to you Rajk. After all you often call others fools and idiots.
"...whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
Hypocrite.
03 Sep 19
@fmf saidDoes Rajk's fallacious posts appeal to yours?
Does this kind of 'argument' appeal to your own intellect?
Rajk makes the most erroneous statements, yet you fail to call him out on them.
Once again you prove you have little or no intellectual integrity.
03 Sep 19
@secondson saidWhy is it that so many Christians have no clue as to the words spoken by Jesus while He preached His gospel?
Jesus used the term "fool" twice only, and in each case it had nothing to do with hearing His commandments.
In Matthew 5:22 though is found something Jesus said that best applies to you Rajk. After all you often call others fools and idiots.
"...whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
Hypocrite.
Matthew 7
24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
03 Sep 19
@thinkofone saidDid you read what Rajk said? Do you know the difference between "fool" and "foolish"?
Why is it that so many Christians have no clue as to the words spoken by Jesus while He preached His gospel?
Matthew 7
24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for ...[text shortened]... loods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
You're out of context.
03 Sep 19
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@secondson said
Did you read what Rajk said? Do you know the difference between "fool" and "foolish"?
You're out of context.
Did you read what Rajk said?
Yes, I read what he wrote.
Do you know the difference between "fool" and "foolish"?
"Fool" is a noun. "Foolish" is an adjective.
You're out of context.
Well, that's an "interesting" way to put it.
Given your history of refusing to admit when you are wrong, it comes as no surprise that you refuse to do it here.
Why is it that so many Christians have so little humility?