19 Jun 06
Originally posted by geniusNo, that would be accepting the possibility of existence, thus giving such a concept status I don't think it should have. In simple terms, I see no reason to believe in either god's existence, or in his non-existence, it amazes me that people bother which such a thing.
are you saying that God should look for you, not you for He?
garguth, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_infalibility and i know very little about revelation and prophesy. to find out more i suggest you look them both up on wiki. although wiki, like me, is not infallible 😉
19 Jun 06
Originally posted by Starrmanbecause we are here? because some people think that humans are just to carefully constructed to be solely the product of evolution, beacuse God has sought them out (read "the heavenly man" by brother yun for a modern day example of this, look at Paul in Acts for an older example), and a whole host of other reasons...
No, that would be accepting the possibility of existence, thus giving such a concept status I don't think it should have. In simple terms, I see no reason to believe in either god's existence, or in his non-existence, it amazes me that people bother which such a thing.
19 Jun 06
Originally posted by geniusNone of which are compelling and some of which have perfectly reasonable answers which do not require the presence of a supernatural being.
because we are here? because some people think that humans are just to carefully constructed to be solely the product of evolution, beacuse God has sought them out (read "the heavenly man" by brother yun for a modern day example of this, look at Paul in Acts for an older example), and a whole host of other reasons...
19 Jun 06
Originally posted by Starrmanbut these people do not see these "answers" as perfectly reasonable. personally, i do not know if evolution is true or not, and really i do not care. However, i beleive that evolution in itself does not explain how humans got here. how we are so well adapted to everything. it may have taken place, but i beleive that if it did it took place under the watchful eye of God.
None of which are compelling and some of which have perfectly reasonable answers which do not require the presence of a supernatural being.
19 Jun 06
Originally posted by geniusThe Theory of Evolution explains a large part of the history of life. It doesnt explain the origin of life nor the origion of the Universe.
but these people do not see these "answers" as perfectly reasonable. personally, i do not know if evolution is true or not, and really i do not care. However, i beleive that evolution in itself does not explain how humans got here. how we are so well adapted to everything. it may have taken place, but i beleive that if it did it took place under the watchful eye of God.
No religion explains them either but rather attempts to hide the question in the unknowable.
19 Jun 06
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Originally posted by twhiteheadDetermining it's unknowable is not hiding the question - it's showing that the question cannot be answered.
The Theory of Evolution explains a large part of the history of life. It doesnt explain the origin of life nor the origion of the Universe.
No religion explains them either but rather attempts to hide the question in the unknowable.
And if you think it's only religion that does it, how about this question - what would your reading be if you tried to measure the mass of a body travelling at twice the speed of light?
19 Jun 06
Originally posted by lucifershammerwhat would your reading be if you tried to measure the mass of a body travelling at twice the speed of light?
Determining it's unkowable is not hiding the question - it's showing that the question cannot be answered.
And if you think it's only religion that does it, how about this question - what would your reading be if you tried to measure the mass of a body travelling at twice the speed of light?
I know the answer to that one: half as fast as it takes for my wife to spend my paychecks!
19 Jun 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHI'm reminded of the "bushel of wind" dialogue from Job. 😀
[b]what would your reading be if you tried to measure the mass of a body travelling at twice the speed of light?
I know the answer to that one: half as fast as it takes for my wife to spend my paychecks![/b]
19 Jun 06
Originally posted by lucifershammerThe implication of genius' statement was that God answered the question, not that he had shown it to be unknowable.
Determining it's unknowable is not hiding the question - it's showing that the question cannot be answered.
And if you think it's only religion that does it, how about this question - what would your reading be if you tried to measure the mass of a body travelling at twice the speed of light?
20 Jun 06
Originally posted by geniusTrue, but men will twist anything around to serve their own pursuits. Just look at the Crusades. Until this day Christians are referred to as Crusaders. How many centuries has it been since the Crusades? This sin has left a mark on Christiandome and to its shame. I would argue that if the people who followed the Crusades knew scripture and subsequently knew God, they would not have been dupped into such a faulty mission.
john 13:35 read "by this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another"
not really the words of the book meant to inspire/cause violence
21 Jun 06
Originally posted by whodeyI think the Catholic church wrote the bible!!!
True, but men will twist anything around to serve their own pursuits. Just look at the Crusades. Until this day Christians are referred to as Crusaders. How many centuries has it been since the Crusades? This sin has left a mark on Christiandome and to its shame. I would argue that if the people who followed the Crusades knew scripture and subsequently knew God, they would not have been dupped into such a faulty mission.
21 Jun 06
Originally posted by whodeyyes, but which do you think is to blame? the bible, or humans?
True, but men will twist anything around to serve their own pursuits. Just look at the Crusades. Until this day Christians are referred to as Crusaders. How many centuries has it been since the Crusades? This sin has left a mark on Christiandome and to its shame. I would argue that if the people who followed the Crusades knew scripture and subsequently knew God, they would not have been dupped into such a faulty mission.