Why Atheists Care About YOUR Religion

Originally posted by @jacob-verville
Yeah, that's how I perceive reality.

I am not asking you how you "perceive reality". I am asking you specifically if your Anne Frank thing appeals to your intellect; i.e. it's the kind of 'argument', that, when you read it, you think, wow that's a really good point. I'm just establishing the nature of your mindmap. It seems you don't want to answer.

Originally posted by @fmf
When divegeester said "You already know the answer to your question", do you think he's lying and therefore trolling you? The reason I ask is because you do already know the answer to your question to divegeester, don't you?

The question I asked him was to clarify exactly what he meant with 'cheating'.

Originally posted by @fmf
I am not asking you how you "perceive reality". I am asking you specifically if your Anne Frank thing appeals to your intellect; i.e. it's the kind of 'argument', that, when you read it, you think, wow that's a really good point. I'm just establishing the nature of your mindmap. It seems you don't want to answer.

You sound very contemptuous of that idea and act like it is incredulous that someone would believe that.

Again... Yes, I believe those things. I'm not joking and you aren't successfully gaslighting me into thinking my viewpoint is rubbish.

Originally posted by @jacob-verville
Again... Yes, I believe those things.

You are answering a different question to the one I am asking you. I am not asking you if you "believe those things". I am asking if the Anne Frank analogy appeals to your intellect.

Originally posted by @jacob-verville
You sound very contemptuous of that idea and act like it is incredulous that someone would believe that.

No, not contemptuous. I think whoever you got the Anne Frank analogy idea from was using it to manipulate weak minded or credulous people, or perhaps in your case someone who is perhaps not critical and just sincerely wants to believe and so grabs onto anything that seems good enough at first glance. The reason I'd be interested in an unequivocal answer from you is that it sets a kind of benchmark for the actual intellectual quality or traction of the sorts of things that impress you. When you talk about this book or that book, or this essay you thought was good, one can bear in mind that the Anne Frank analogy was the kind of thing that appealed to your intellect.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
The question I asked him was to clarify exactly what he meant with 'cheating'.

He obviously thinks you were just trolling him as usual. You were asking me dumb questions that you already knew the answer to as well - you were pretending you and I had not discussed cheating in a marriage before, when of course we had; I saw that as you trolling as well.

Originally posted by @fmf
He obviously thinks you were just trolling him as usual. You were asking me dumb questions that you already knew the answer to as well - you were pretending you and I had not discussed cheating in a marriage before, when of course we had; I saw that as you trolling as well.

Of course you can conveniently label a question as 'dumb and already discussed' when you don't have the balls to answer it as you have been doing for a while now.

You have said that you don't believe in moral absolutes and at the same time you have said that you believe cheating on your wife is always wrong. If you are happy to contradict yourself at every turn, be my guest.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Of course you can conveniently label a question as 'dumb and already discussed' when you don't have the balls to answer it as you have been doing for a while now.

You're pretending that you and I have not already discussed this topic. Why do you do this kind of thing all the time?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
You have said that you don't believe in moral absolutes and at the same time you have said that you believe cheating on your wife is always wrong. If you are happy to contradict yourself at every turn, be my guest.

You and I have discussed the source, nature and purpose of morality, including how it relates to sex and marriage before ~ including pre-marital sex, marital sex and extra-marital sex, and of course the moral case against "cheating" as well. Why are you behaving as if we haven't?

Originally posted by @fmf
You're pretending that you and I have not already discussed this topic. Why do you do this kind of thing all the time?

The fact that we may have discussed a topic before doesn't mean that an answer was given at that time to the question at hand.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
The fact that we may have discussed a topic before doesn't mean that an answer was given at that time to the question at hand.

Well, I don't feel the need to repeat what I said. Your day-in-day out assertions that I did not address your opinions in the past, or that we never even discussed the topics at all, and then you just repeating yourself, repeating the question, repeating a mischaracterization of what I had said - or repeating one of your inevitable punchlines - is just plain trolling. Or perhaps you simply can't help it. Your call.

Originally posted by @fmf
Well, I don't feel the need to repeat what I said. Your day-in-day out assertions that I did not address your points in the past, or that we never even discussed them, and then you just repeating yourself, repeating the question, or repeating a mischaracterization of what I had said, is just plain trolling. Or perhaps you simply can't help it. Your call.

You don't have to repeat what you have said at all, you could just answer my question. I don't feel that what you have said before has answered my question.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
You don't have to repeat what you have said at all, you could just answer my question. I don't feel that what you have said before has answered my question.

Well, when I tell you I think I have already addressed whatever you are asking about, and I decline to repeat myself, you ought to leave it at that perhaps ~ just as I do every time you tell me you don't want to answer because you feel you already have. I always accept that when you say it, I apologize, and the conversation can move on to something we both believe is new.

Originally posted by @fmf
Well, when I tell you I think I have already addressed whatever you are asking about, and I decline to repeat myself, you ought to leave it at that perhaps ~ just as I do every time you tell me you don't want to answer because you feel you already have. I always accept that when you say it, I apologize, and the conversation can move on to something we both believe is new.

That way you could just keep on shifting the goal posts as is your style.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
That way you could just keep on shifting the goal posts as is your style.

And so there you go again.

Is there anything new you want to talk about?

What about the OP to this thread?