12 Oct 22
@medullah saidI asked why does it have be “played out”.
I can't agree that hell is a place that exists as you seem to indicate (we've discussed on other threads), and we arent dealing with a controlled experiment. There is a mutany of a group of very powerful beings (don't forget the fallen angels too) which has far reaching consequences.
Satan directly challenged God's authority and called him a liar (Genesis 3:4). This charg ...[text shortened]... f this had to happen, it was a political choice, man dominating man to his injury (Eccelsiastes 8:9)
You’ve written a long post just to say that the wisdom of god needs be played out because it needs to be played out.
@fmf saidI don't see a problem. To me the authorites are not just national governments but also local authorities such as councils who organise and provide essential services for society to function (Rom 13:6-7)
Much to digest here. But, a side issue first.
How does Satan 'having control of the political system' [1 John 5:19] square with Romans 13:1?
There is however a principal, that if an authority either local or national are asking you to do something in conflict with God's law, that God's law has precedence (Acts 5:29)
13 Oct 22
@divegeester
And I responded.
The issue raised had to be proven one way or another and that took time to do. If the claim is that man can rule himelf then tme must be provided for that to be disporoved. or otherwise, and I referenced 6,000 years.
I will also make the point that this time is coming to end end, and will be marked but the emergence of the "Mark of the Beast" (Rev 13:16) which pretty much looks like the Quantum Tattoo (powered by Miscrosoft) that BIll Gates was signalling about five years or more ago. The prototypes that I have seen would suggest that many would willingly take it as a fashion accessory if nothing else.
13 Oct 22
@medullah saidIs political authority put in place/ controlled by God or Satan?
I don't see a problem. To me the authorites are not just national governments but also local authorities such as councils who organise and provide essential services for society to function (Rom 13:6-7)
There is however a principal, that if an authority either local or national are asking you to do something in conflict with God's law, that God's law has precedence (Acts 5:29)
13 Oct 22
@medullah saidThis “issue raised” is what exactly?
@divegeester
The issue raised had to be proven one way or another and that took time to do. If the claim is that man can rule himelf then tme must be provided for that to be disporoved. or otherwise, and I referenced 6,000 years.
And why does it need time to be proved?
13 Oct 22
@medullah saidAll this Christian Marvel Comic stuff just makes me realise that you’re another one of these extremist “the end is nigh” placard bearers who sees the Mark of the Beast on the bed knobs
@divegeester
I will also make the point that this time is coming to end end, and will be marked but the emergence of the "Mark of the Beast" (Rev 13:16) which pretty much looks like the Quantum Tattoo (powered by Miscrosoft) that BIll Gates was signalling about five years or more ago. The prototypes that I have seen would suggest that many would willingly take it as a fashion accessory if nothing else.
14 Oct 22
@fmf saidThe scriptures would appear to indicate that they are subject to a lot od Satanic control, although I'm not suggesting that the devil is responsible for the getiing your rubbish collected.
Is political authority put in place/ controlled by God or Satan?
If you look at the world over the last 20 years we have lots of war and bloodshed for disingenuous reasons so that people can make money. The first time that I conciously bumped into that was duing the Johnson era and the vietnam war.
14 Oct 22
@divegeester saidThe issue raised was wether man could rule himself
This “issue raised” is what exactly?
And why does it need time to be proved?
Time needed to be afforded to prove one way or another if this was true or not.
@divegeester saidIf instead of rushing to type a put-down you'd have done a simple piece of homework you would have uncovered the truth of what I am telling you.
All this Christian Marvel Comic stuff just makes me realise that you’re another one of these extremist “the end is nigh” placard bearers who sees the Mark of the Beast on the bed knobs
The Quantum System (as in Quantum Tattoo) is a reality whose consequences you have already witnessed but not understood. When in the current Ukraine conflict The West tried to inhibit Russia frome use of the Swift clearing system it made no difference, and if anything Russia has economically prevailed. Part of the reason is that they changed their monetory system.
Earlier in the year and there was a row over how energy was going to be paid for as Russia wanted payment in a hard currency. This is relates to the fact that a number of counties are going back to a gold standard, notably those who are not satellites of America, in preparation to a switch to QFS (Quantum Financial System) which relies on extremely high speed quantum computing, and is being prepared for a role-out over the next few months. Part of the condition for the switch to QFS is a gold standard.
In the case of the tattoo I have a link here that will give you an introduction to it, though the stuff that I have seen when Gates was dicussing consolidating health and finances onto the tattoo was more advanced, and again is patched into a quantum system via wifi. This sort of technology will undoubtedly be sold as a method to alleviate congestion in the health service.
I have not suggested that the end of the world is nigh; you have introduced this as part of your bluster.
As for this being in the realm of "Marvel Comic", it iseems that the issue isn't me fantasising, but that you are clearly ignorant of the scientific and technological developments that have been taking place, and planned to be distributed.
14 Oct 22
@medullah saidYour post reads like a load of conspiratorial clap trap to me.
If instead of rushing to type a put-down you'd have done a simple piece of homework you would have uncovered the truth of what I am telling you.
The Quantum System (as in Quantum Tattoo) is a reality whose consequences you have already witnessed but not understood. When in the current Ukraine conflict The West tried to inhibit Russia frome use of the Swift clearing system ...[text shortened]... cientific and technological developments that have been taking place, and planned to be distributed.
14 Oct 22
@divegeester saidI suspect that I'm dealing with an age/lazyness issue, as a quick google search or following the link that I provided will show that this is science and factuality.
Your post reads like a load of conspiratorial clap trap to me.
I'm sure that if you presented commerial flight to a member of the Elizabthan Court of the 1600's that we would have a similar response to yours, and I take no offence.
This will re-emerge over the next few weeks as Quantum (which you obviously haven't even taken the time to investigate) will go live.