Why I am a Christian

Originally posted by Rajk999
You must know from discussions on this forum alone, that all Christians do not believe that that is the will of God? They believe that the will of God is to believe in the NAME Jesus and to believe that he existed. And this is the reason why instead of helping to solve the worlds problems they have contributed to worsening it, because their doctrine leads to selfishness, greed and worldliness.

Yes and there are also Christians who believe that only their good works are sufficient to save them. Both groups are missing the plot.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Yes and there are also Christians who believe that only their good works are sufficient to save them. Both groups are missing the plot.

Actually the Christians who are closest to Jesus are the ones who believe that the teachings of Christ are essential to solving the problems of the world, which is the subject of this thread. Plus you claim to be a Christian because you think Christ and by extention Christianity can solve the problems of the world. But many Christians are part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Actually the Christians who are closest to Jesus are the ones who believe that the teachings of Christ are essential to solving the problems of the world, which is the subject of this thread. Plus you claim to be a Christian because you think Christ and by extention Christianity can solve the problems of the world. But many Christians are part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

I agree with you that the teachings of Christ are essential. Do you not think Christ is the answer to all our problems? If so, why are you a Christian? Would the world not be a better place if everyone followed the teachings of Christ?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I agree with you that the teachings of Christ are essential. Do you not think Christ is the answer to all our problems? If so, why are you a Christian?

Christ is not the answer to anything, except to the issue of original sin.
The sin of Adam is the reason why God sent Christ.
The commandments of Christ is the answer.to everything ie all the worlds problems.

I am a Christian because I was brought up in a Christian environment. Even if I was brought up in another environment I would still be the same person, God fearing and with a conscience to guide me.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Christ is not the answer to anything, except to the issue of original sin.
The sin of Adam is the reason why God sent Christ.
The commandments of Christ is the answer.to everything ie all the worlds problems.

I am a Christian because I was brought up in a Christian environment. Even if I was brought up in another environment I would still be the same person, God fearing and with a conscience to guide me.

So Christ is only the answer to Adams sin, not yours and mine? So only Adam can go to Heaven?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So Christ is only the answer to Adams sin, not yours and mine? So only Adam can go to Heaven?

Where did the Bible say anyone was going to heaven?

Originally posted by Rajk999
Where did the Bible say anyone was going to heaven?

I assume you already know the answer to that question.

If not. Here is a link with all the references:

https://gotquestions.org/who-will-go-to-heaven.html

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I assume you already know the answer to that question.

If not. Here is a link with all the references:

https://gotquestions.org/who-will-go-to-heaven.html

I know the answer of course and it is that the Bible says NOTHING at all about going to heaven. Your link proves my point. There are no references in your link about going to heaven. If I am mistaken then please provide ONE reference.

And I did ignore your first question So Christ is only the answer to Adams sin, not yours and mine?, because we discussed that at length previously.

Originally posted by Rajk999
I know the answer of course and it is that the Bible says NOTHING at all about going to heaven. Your link proves my point. There are no references in your link about going to heaven. If I am mistaken then please provide ONE reference.

And I did ignore your first question So Christ is only the answer to Adams sin, not yours and mine?, because we discussed that at length previously.

'...because we discussed that at length previously.'


And he'll have you do so again,...and again.

Originally posted by Rajk999

Christ is not the answer to anything, except to the issue of original sin.
The sin of Adam is the reason why God sent Christ.

The New Testament says that ALL, .... ALL of the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are in Christ.

" In whom [Christ] all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hidden." (Colossians 2:3)

That is quite extensive and should cover more than just an answer to "original sin".

The commandments of Christ is the answer.to everything ie all the worlds problems.

No one can enumerate the commandments of Christ.
No one can say "Here is the list of commandments of Christ"

The commandments of Christ from abiding in the Holy Spirit are through the day and the night. And no one can define with precision how many leadings of the Spirit of Christ take place in the day to the Christian abiding in Him.

I am a Christian because I was brought up in a Christian environment.

If you do not have the Spirit of Christ you are not of Christ, says the New Testament.
It doesn't care what environment you were brought up in.

"Yet if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not of Him." (Rom. 8:9b)

And a person can tout on and on about "the commandments of Christ". But it is to those who received Him that God grants the authority to become His children in divine life. And they are BORN through regeneration to be such.

"But as many as received Him, to them He gave the authority to become children of God, to those who believe into His name.

Who were BEGOTTEN .... not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." (John 1:12,13)

A Christians is spiritually begotten. A Christian is born of the Father.
A Christian receives Jesus Christ as Lord, surrendering His life to Christ, and if begotten of God.

Even if I was brought up in another environment I would still be the same person, God fearing and with a conscience to guide me.

Regardless of environment, regardless of fearing God or prompting of the conscience, if you have not received Christ [ie. the Spirit of Christ] you are not of Christ.

That is what the New Testament teaches.

This is not me saying I know always who has and has not the Spirit of Christ.
This is only the truth that "the Spirit of Christ" indwelling the human spirit makes the person "of Him".

And of course this truth is not as you twist to accuse, an encouragement for one who has received Christ, or anyone else, to live a sinful life.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
'...because we discussed that at length previously.'


And he'll have you do so again,...and again.

Wont get caught doing that .. 🙂

Originally posted by Rajk999

You must know from discussions on this forum alone, that all Christians do not believe that that is the will of God? They believe that the will of God is to believe in the NAME Jesus and to believe that he existed. And this is the reason why instead of helping to solve the worlds problems they have contributed to worsening it, because their doctrine leads to selfishness, greed and worldliness.

Let me see. Because you can point this out, that makes you ... automatically more righteous ?

Jesus says specifically that the works of God were to believe in Him whom He has sent.

" Then they said to Him, What shall we do that we may work the works of God?

Jesus answered and said to them, This is the work of God, that you believe into Him whom He has sent." (John 6:28,29)

And now we will very likely see you twist this truth to feed your complaint that I encourage Christians to continue to live sinful lives just as before they were saved.

But I am just pointing out that the work of God starts with believing in Christ Whom God the Father has sent.

Originally posted by Rajk999
I know the answer of course and it is that the Bible says NOTHING at all about going to heaven. Your link proves my point. There are no references in your link about going to heaven. If I am mistaken then please provide ONE reference.

And I did ignore your first question So Christ is only the answer to Adams sin, not yours and mine?, because we discussed that at length previously.

To FMJ. Cannot find ONE ?? You have to wonder how many other things you believe that is not in the Bible

Originally posted by Rajk999
To FMJ. Cannot find ONE ?? You have to wonder how many other things you believe that is not in the Bible

Most people equate having 'eternal life' with going to heaven. It seems you don't. What does having 'eternal life' mean to you if it does not mean going to the place Jesus was referring to here: "In My Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you?"

Originally posted by Rajk999
To FMJ. Cannot find ONE ?? You have to wonder how many other things you believe that is not in the Bible

So according to you there is no heaven? Or does having 'eternal life' not equate with going to heaven? What does having 'eternal life' mean to you?