13 Apr 10
Originally posted by black beetleyes this can even be biblically substantiated 🙂
Nope; the effect on the universe is not observable solely by the theist because it is a fruit of enlightenment thanks to the phainomenon of the grace of God. And it is God the agent that will choose whether or not a person will become, if ever, enlightened. Furthermore, this effect is existent although it is not observable by the wicked. Therefore such ...[text shortened]... ists for both the theist and the wicked atheist, and both of them exist in the same universe
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13 Apr 10
Originally posted by black beetleSame to you, old friend!
Oh it's being a long time my friend, I hope that you and yours are fit and happy!
I had the feeling that the ground of the universe is mind-only😵
Yes, I wrote all of that badly. I should have realized that when I got to the inseparability. Figure and ground are “not two”.
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Though late this year, the bees
today are dancing
in the wild cherry blooms!
13 Apr 10
Originally posted by black beetleSo essentially, being wicked, it is impossible for the theist to show me, or explain to me his observations, and my scientific instruments will be similarly encumbered. Can I not then claim that as far as I am concerned such a God truly does not exist, because his effects can essentially never be observed by me?
Nope; the effect on the universe is not observable solely by the theist because it is a fruit of enlightenment thanks to the phainomenon of the grace of God. And it is God the agent that will choose whether or not a person will become, if ever, enlightened. Furthermore, this effect is existent although it is not observable by the wicked. Therefore such ...[text shortened]... ists for both the theist and the wicked atheist, and both of them exist in the same universe
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13 Apr 10
Originally posted by vistesdA violin without strings
Same to you, old friend!
Yes, I wrote all of that badly. I should have realized that when I got to the inseparability. Figure and ground are “not two”.
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Though late this year, the bees
today are dancing
in the wild cherry blooms!
plays music all day long;
Oxen made of clay
keep up wandering all night long;
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13 Apr 10
Originally posted by twhiteheadYou can claim that In Your Opinion such a God truly does not exist, however you cannot prove by means of scientific facts and evidence that such a God does not truly exist😵
So essentially, being wicked, it is impossible for the theist to show me, or explain to me his observations, and my scientific instruments will be similarly encumbered. Can I not then claim that as far as I am concerned such a God truly does not exist, because his effects can essentially never be observed by me?
13 Apr 10
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Originally posted by black beetleLol, one should not go scuba diving from a parachute jump 😀
If his 26th parachute jump was as fine as the previous 25, I would love to know what that tricky Scot of yers would say then😵
a statement that even Confucius would be proud of.😵
13 Apr 10
Originally posted by black beetleAnd I too, madly—
A violin without strings
plays music all day long;
Oxen made of clay
keep up wandering all night long;
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with violins in the blooms,
and bees without strings,
and oxen unsung
under spring moons—
wander and dance
wander and dance
wander madly
wander and dance!
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I think there ought to be a cue for Robbie and the bagpipes here somewhere…
