Why shouldn't I kill myself

Originally posted by 7ate9
well, you didn't read the rest of my post.

I did actually. But are you denying that according to Christian doctorine that death is not the end?

Originally posted by 7ate9
to look for a better life?

to stop things that have happen to yourself happening to someone you care about?

How would killing yourself help you "...to look for a better life?"

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Do you support research into techiniques, such as those using stem cells, that would allow "new parts" to be generated in a lab? What do our Christian bretheren think about this? It seems to me absolutely one of the most abhorrent things about Christianity that many would leave this poor girl in (perhaps) both physical and mental pain for the rest of ...[text shortened]... ter had science, in the form of her doctors, not stepped in where God apparently stepped out).

In my opinion we should encourage the development of techniques in making 'body parts' in the labs. But I don't believe we are anywhere close to that right now. I think much of the opposition come from the fear of abuse. We might some day end up getting killed because someone else needs a kidney or something. Animals get killed to run tests; and thousands of animals might have to die before we are able to come up with a decent result. Then there is the debate on cloning a full living human for the purpose of making body parts to harvest later on. It makes a good after-dinner conversation on what to do with that living clone AFTER the body parts have been harvested. The list of potential problems goes on and on. BUT! I do not subscribe to the idea of resisting such knowledge on the strength of 'going against God'. If it is for the good of humans, why not? Let's be realistic. I'm not too sure that those who are against such techniques will continue to think that way if they themselves, or their loved ones, end up needing just those very techniques to go on living. God gave us brains, didn't he? Who knows, maybe it's God's indirect way of helping us?

Originally posted by ckoh1965
In my opinion we should encourage the development of techniques in making 'body parts' in the labs. But I don't believe we are anywhere close to that right now. I think much of the opposition come from the fear of abuse. We might some day end up getting killed because someone else needs a kidney or something. Animals get killed to run tests; and thousands o ...[text shortened]... God gave us brains, didn't he? Who knows, maybe it's God's indirect way of helping us?

Lab grown spares, with no chance of rejection (since they are your own cells) so no need for immuno-supressants (which can allow bacterial infections), are closer than you might think....

Here's one for fun, but I know they've grown ears as well.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/health/HealthRepublish_851192.htm

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Lab grown spares, with no chance of rejection (since they are your own cells) so no need for immuno-supressants (which can allow bacterial infections), are closer than you might think....

Here's one for fun, but I know they've grown ears as well.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/health/HealthRepublish_851192.htm

Wow, awesome piece of science achievement! I guess VIAGRA will soon be obsolete, huh? But seriously, although some breakthroughs have been achieved in rats, I still think that it would take ages still to actually be applicable on humans. Not to mention other much more complicated organs like the heart, kidneys etc. Granted, it is possible, but maybe not in my lifetime (I'm 41 yrs old). Would be nice, though, if I can benefit from a new functional p***s when and if it eventually fail on me!... hehehe.

Originally posted by 7ate9
what a pack of chickens

Isn't that a flock?

Originally posted by 7ate9
the highest proportion would be within teenagers and young adults, but it still happens to older people. i think you would find at least one of the following as the main reasons(or lack of) why in prob. all suicide successes.

1) love

2) abuse

3) money

4) health

The highest proportion of suicide in male U.S. Whites occurs after the age of 70.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
How about living for yourself?

well you cant live for yourself with laws and ten commandments on top of that lol

Edit: i mean like you dont have freedom to do W/E you want

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
well you cant live for yourself with laws and ten commandments on top of that lol

Edit: i mean like you dont have freedom to do W/E you want

Nobody has complete freedom anyway. I cannot go out and murder someone now - it's against my own morals, and against the law. I don't care if some imagined "God" says it's okay or not.

I do live for myself though - I don't justify my continued existance through anything other than my own desire to do more science.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Nobody has complete freedom anyway. I cannot go out and murder someone now - it's against my own morals, and against the law. I don't care if some imagined "God" says it's okay or not.

where did your morals come from may I ask?

Originally posted by pizzintea
where did your morals come from may I ask?

A mix between those instilled by my parents, and my own thoughts. Of course, society has a large influence too.