06 Feb 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeApparently.
'Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.' (1 Timothy 5:8)
Is neglecting our family worse for God than not believing He exists?
Obviously a fate worse that burning in hell for eternity awaits.
06 Feb 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeUnbelief is so overrated.
'Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.' (1 Timothy 5:8)
Is neglecting our family worse for God than not believing He exists?
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeLike I keep saying .. an atheist is going to fare better than a sinful Christian when judgment day comes.
'Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.' (1 Timothy 5:8)
Is neglecting our family worse for God than not believing He exists?
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Originally posted by @rajk999Hard to believe you can both be a Christian and say that. You have no faith in the veracity of John 3:16 and Romans 10:9?
Like I keep saying .. an atheist is going to fare better than a sinful Christian when judgment day comes.
I know you believe in an incorrect works-based salvation, but do you think faith plays a role at all in Christianity? Not just in terms of salvation but also in terms of pleasing God?
Originally posted by @romans1009It's interesting that you have sidestepped the OP which would appear to make nonsense of your assertion that you providing for your mother is an example of your Christian 'good works'.
Hard to believe you can both be a Christian and say that. You have no faith in the veracity of John 3:16 and Romans 10:9?
I know you believe in an incorrect works-based salvation, but do you think faith plays a role at all in Christianity? Not just in terms of salvation but also in terms of pleasing God?
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Originally posted by @fmfHuh?
It's interesting that you have sidestepped the OP which would appear to make nonsense of your assertion that you providing for your mother is an example of your Christian 'good works'.
You see no distinction between providing for someone and being their caretaker? Hope you don’t have kids,
Originally posted by @romans1009What does your talk of looking after your mother mean in the light of 1 Timothy 5:8 ? Can you really cite it as an example of Christian 'good works'?
Huh?
You see no distinction between providing for someone and being their caretaker? Hope you don’t have kids,
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Originally posted by @fmf“Looking after” and being the sole caretaker are two different things. You don’t know what is involved with caring for my mother and the sacrifices I have made to do it when I could have hired someone to “provide” for her (I believe that was the Biblical word used in Timothy) and made my life easier but her life more unpleasant.
What does your talk of looking after your mother mean in the light of 1 Timothy 5:8 ? Can you really cite it as an example of Christian 'good works'?
Originally posted by @romans1009So making sacrifices for your own mother is an example of Christian 'good works'? Not hiring someone to do it for you and to make your life easier is an example of Christian 'good works'?
You don’t know what is involved with caring for my mother and the sacrifices I have made to do it when I could have hired someone to “provide” for her (I believe that was the Biblical word used in Timothy) and made my life easier but her life more unpleasant.
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The post that was quoted here has been removed“Looking after” describes what a babysitter does; not what a parent does. And a parent who deeply cares for their children and makes sacrifices for them is indeed doing “good works.” I would hope you could acknowledge that not all parenting constitutes “looking after.” Some constitutes a great deal more.
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Originally posted by @fmfI would consider that “good works” regardless of whether a Christian or non-Christian did it.
So making sacrifices for your own mother is an example of Christian 'good works'? Not hiring someone to do it for you and to make your life easier is an example of Christian 'good works'?
Originally posted by @romans1009Do you consider the Christian 'good works' of looking after your mother to be a righteous act?
I would consider that “good works” regardless of whether a Christian or non-Christian did it.
Originally posted by @romans1009Is looking after one's children an example of Christian 'good works'?
You see no distinction between providing for someone and being their caretaker? Hope you don’t have kids,
This is your answer, taken from above:
And a parent who deeply cares for their children and makes sacrifices for them is indeed doing “good works.” I would hope you could acknowledge that not all parenting constitutes “looking after.” Some constitutes a great deal more.
And you believe that parent can cite caring for their children and making sacrifices for them is an example of Christian 'good works'?