19 Dec 06
Originally posted by ivanhoeI shall be telling this with a sigh
Since when do you speak on behalf of the Skipper ?
"What makes sence to me is that if one follows someone elses path, Jesus' in this case, one will never gain his wisdom. For he was a selfmade man."
If you want to go to Washington do you follow the signs pointing in the city's direction or do you "answer your own questions" ?
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I ---
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference
Robert Frost from "Two Roads Diverged"
19 Dec 06
Originally posted by ivanhoeTo my knowledge, there is no roadmap to God.
Since when do you speak on behalf of the Skipper ?
"What makes sence to me is that if one follows someone elses path, Jesus' in this case, one will never gain his wisdom. For he was a selfmade man."
If you want to go to Washington do you follow the signs pointing in the city's direction or do you "answer your own questions" ?
19 Dec 06
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Originally posted by Sake... to your knowledge .... sure ....
To my knowledge, there is no roadmap to God.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PVS.HTM
The Story of the Young Rich Ruler.
16 11 12 Now someone approached him and said, "Teacher, what good must I do to gain eternal life?"
17 He answered him, "Why do you ask me about the good? There is only One who is good. 13 If you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments."
18 14 He asked him, "Which ones?" And Jesus replied, " 'You shall not kill; you shall not commit adultery; you shall not steal; you shall not bear false witness;
19 honor your father and your mother'; and 'you shall love your neighbor as yourself.'"
20 15 The young man said to him, "All of these I have observed. What do I still lack?"
21 Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be perfect, 16 go, sell what you have and give to (the) poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
22 When the young man heard this statement, he went away sad, for he had many possessions.
23 17 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "Amen, I say to you, it will be hard for one who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.
24 Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for one who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
25 18 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and said, "Who then can be saved?"
26 Jesus looked at them and said, "For human beings this is impossible, but for God all things are possible."
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...and in case you are interested in an explanation of these verses please visit:
The Encyclical "Veritatis Splendor":
http://www.vatican.va/edocs/ENG0222/__P3.HTM
20 Dec 06
Originally posted by kirksey957What a great poem.
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I ---
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference
Robert Frost from "Two Roads Diverged"
Good reasoning for taking your own religious path and not being a Christian.
20 Dec 06
Originally posted by ivanhoeBeautiful words of Jesus. Still, by following there hasn't been one since who obtained the knowledge he had. Why do you follow and what is your drive to speak so loudly about Jesus and God when it is impossible for human beings to be saved?
... to your knowledge .... sure ....
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PVS.HTM
The Story of the Young Rich Ruler.
16 11 12 Now someone approached him and said, "Teacher, what good must I do to gain eternal life?"
17 He answered him, "Why do you ask me about the good? There is only One who is good. 13 If you wish to enter into life, kee ...[text shortened]... al "Veritatis Splendor":
http://www.vatican.va/edocs/ENG0222/__P3.HTM