Originally posted by FMFThis comes across as a muddled stance because your pride will not allow you to see the truth and you, therefore, can not understand anything but being hateful.
What you seem to be suggesting - perhaps inadvertently - is that if parents are not indoctrinating their children with beliefs about purported "truths" - any "truths" [because it doesn't matter what the beliefs actually are... they could be yours, Dasa's, a Muslim's, an atheist's] - then it amounts to "child abuse". This comes across as a muddled stance you are taking.
Originally posted by RJHindsYou apparently back Dasa's position on "child abuse" but are then unable to explain what it actually means or how it works.
This comes across as a muddled stance because your pride will not allow you to see the truth and you, therefore, can not understand anything but being hateful.
Originally posted by RJHindsI do not "hate" either of you. I don't "hate" anyone on this site. I don't really see how you brandishing this particular accusation helps you make your case, about anything, to people who have different beliefs from you, and who express them here.
My intuition tells me that you hate Dasa and me at the very least for writing things you don't agree with and you are unable to win an argument against us. And you are too prideful to let it go.
Originally posted by galveston75Actually I take the Sabbath thing a step further.....it's no longer a day but a Person and that Person in Christ 🙂 To rest from our works we must enter into the true rest which is in and through Christ
A point that you are still missing and it's a really big one is what I quoted earlier on what Paul said and that is "we are still in the 7th day" which is God's rest day. (Heb 4:1-11)
Adam and Eve's creation was at the end of the 6th creative day. The 7th started right as that 6th day ended.
Also, were Adam and Eve only on the earth for 24 hours af ...[text shortened]... over more then 6 thousand years ago, but according to Paul, we are still in that 7th day.
Manny
Originally posted by FMFUmm...
You are using the same vocabulary as RJHinds on this thread, and in a comparable way. Just saying.
RJHinds didn't say anything about hate or haters in this thread until after I did. His first mention of it is in response to your response to me.
So if your point is that I am using the same vocabulary in a comparable way to someone who basically copied it from me, then I'm afraid I'm going to be guilty of this again in the future. 🙂
Some hold to what is called "The Gap theory" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gap_creationism
This is one way to explain an old earth old universe. I believe the science of what we see and we know the universe is old. I'm perplexed by man's sudden exponential rise however in the last 6-7k years but I have no problem with an old universe and earth.
Manny
Originally posted by SwissGambitPeople calling each other "haters" or explaining disagreement or mutual rebukes in terms of "hatred" seems to be increasingly common currency on this forum. RJHinds has been calling people "haters" for as long as I can remember, so I don't see how you think he has "basically copied it from [you]" in this instance. Just a little surprised at you, that's all. Kind of thought - mistakenly perhaps - that you steered clear of that kind of thing.
Umm...
RJHinds didn't say anything about hate or haters in this thread until after I did. His first mention of it is in response to your response to me.
So if your point is that I am using the same vocabulary in a comparable way to someone who basically copied it from me, then I'm afraid I'm going to be guilty of this again in the future. 🙂
Originally posted by FMFYour pride has gotten so bad that you must continually lie to protect it. When is the last time you admitted that you were in error and apologized for it?
People calling each other "haters" or explaining disagreement or mutual rebukes in terms of "hatred" seems to be increasingly common currency on this forum. RJHinds has been calling people "haters" for as long as I can remember, so I don't see how you think he has "basically copied it from [you]" in this instance. Just a little surprised at you, that's all. Kind of thought - mistakenly perhaps - that you steered clear of that kind of thing.
Originally posted by RJHindsYou claim people are "lying" - or that something they said was a "lie" - so often that it doesn't really have much meaning or effect anymore.
Your pride has gotten so bad that you must continually lie to protect it. When is the last time you admitted that you were in error and apologized for it?
Originally posted by FMFI wasn't calling anyone on this forum a 'hater'.
People calling each other "haters" or explaining disagreement or mutual rebukes in terms of "hatred" seems to be increasingly common currency on this forum. RJHinds has been calling people "haters" for as long as I can remember, so I don't see how you think he has "basically copied it from [you]" in this instance. Just a little surprised at you, that's all. Kind of thought - mistakenly perhaps - that you steered clear of that kind of thing.
Well, when I said it, I wasn't quoting anyone, or thinking of anyone else who might have previously said it. RJHinds, however, clearly started using it in this thread right after I did. Yeah, he copied it off me.
I suppose you will have to be mistaken about me then. I've known people who were just hateful to me no matter what I did. I imagine most people have dealt with the same. You're definitely going to get unreasonable criticism from such people and you have to realize the guy/girl is just being a douche and not take it too seriously. Better yet, give 'em a stiff middle finger. Did that once to a co-worker who yelled and cursed at me - he never bothered me again after that.
Originally posted by SwissGambitYou seemed to be quite clearly suggesting to jaywill that he could dismiss people who disagreed with him - people who chose to "rebuke" him - as "just haters", if he wanted to. I was baffled as to why someone with your evident sensibilities and thoughtfulness would go anywhere near encouraging him to do such a thing when this forum is already stricken with people resorting to this kind of thing.
I wasn't calling anyone on this forum a 'hater'.
Originally posted by RJHindsI took a look at your link. So, you taking it upon yourself to call me a "hater" and a "liar" has got - in your mind, anyway - something to do with [or is in some way justified by] the story of Moses and "Pharaoh" and the "perpetual quest to find discrepancies in the Bible"? How so?
http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=11&article=1205
Originally posted by FMFIt has to do with you hardening your heart against the truth of God just like the "Pharaoh". HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!
I took a look at your link. So, you taking it upon yourself to call me a "hater" and a "liar" has got - in your mind, anyway - something to do with [or is in some way justified by] the story of Moses and "Pharaoh" and the "perpetual quest to find discrepancies in the Bible"? How so?