15 Dec 05
Originally posted by Bosse de NageWhen you start behaving in a right manner, your life is transformed. Your past wrongs become irrelevant. You can just let them go.
Who's counting the wrongs you commit? When you start behaving in a right manner, your life is transformed. Your past wrongs become irrelevant. You can just let them go.
Tell it to the jury.
15 Dec 05
Originally posted by HalitoseOh, right. Well, a murderer who repents and behaves correctly in confinement is much more likely to receive parole than one who does not. Then there's the healing process, which cannot begin until the person decides to act positively. The jury has nothing to do with this.
Any situation where this would be applicable... e.g. repentant serial rapist/murderer.
15 Dec 05
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Originally posted by Bosse de NageHow does this fit in with the Zoroastrian view of Heaven and Hell? (Refer link in first post).
Who's counting the wrongs you commit? When you start behaving in a right manner, your life is transformed. Your past wrongs become irrelevant. You can just let them go.
15 Dec 05
Originally posted by lucifershammerIt's certainly in line with the christian belief that we can all be forgiven.
Is that the Zoroastrian view of things? Or your own?
I don't know. I think if you already made bad choices that you cannot compensate for in any way, you should just work that much harder to change in the future. I see no reason to give up since it's about the bigger scheme of things (at least about the society at large).
The key, I think, is that everyone must be allowed to feel that what they do matters. If nothing I do matters, then why try? The only reason I can see for people being ignorant and careless is that they feel nobody cares for them, so why should they care? Or (and this is one of my favorites), either they shoot first or I do.
It's that kind of mentality that leads to bad decisions. We can all change for the better if we want to; if society and the mob allows us to.
15 Dec 05
Originally posted by stockenThe Christian belief is that all have been forgiven. No one goes to hell for sin.
It's certainly in line with the christian belief that we can all be forgiven.
I see no reason to give up since it's about the bigger scheme of things (at least about the society at large).
The only reason I can see for people being ignorant and careless is that they feel nobody cares for them, so why should they care?
We can all change for the better if we want to; if society and the mob allows us to.
A person who understands the bigger scheme of things, in relation to the society at large around them, would not become a serial fill-in-the-blank.
Most times, people are ignorant and careless specifically because they are never held accountable for their actions. Without real results for real action, there is no such thing as a free society.
I'm racking my smallish lobes to remember a time when the mob yelled out for three grown men to break into the house of a middle school girl, force her out of her parents' home, rape her repeatedly, force other objects into her privates, and then kill her.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt the mob in Naperville, Illinois, did any such thing as demand and/or force those unwitting, defenseless upstanding citizens into those acts.
15 Dec 05
Originally posted by lucifershammerGee whillickers. I never would have thought of referring to the link in the first post. Thanks for that, LH.
How does this fit in with the Zoroastrian view of Heaven and Hell? (Refer link in first post).
There would appear to be no heaven & hell in Z'ism but two states of being--union & separation from God. Since either end state is dependent on choice, it seems that every Zoroastrian gets what they want in the end.