11 Jan 07
Originally posted by mtthwI saw this stat on wikipedia as well.
OK, all I've found so far is from Wikipedia (so the usual caveats on accuracy), and it's limited. Here's one piece of data that suggests the difference is relatively small, except for the Taylor effect. Wikipedia lists all instances of players scoring more than 100 as a three dart average for a world championship match. Here are the people that have done it ...[text shortened]... dams - 3
Ted Hankey - 2
Mervyn King - 1
Marko Pusa - 1
John Walton - 1
Chris Mason - 1
It proves that you can have a really good spell at the ockey. The games i've seen Martin Adams play in, some of his 3 dart average were around 85, which i would have a great chance of beating..
11 Jan 07
Originally posted by millermanNot misleading at all since if the small proportion of the total population which watches darts on the Beeb is much greater than the number who watch it on SKY then a greater number of people will consider the Beeb one "the real thing" regardless of quality.
Viewing figures will be misleading as the BDO is a Beeb event which can be accessed my the whole population in the U.K. Sky only has a few million subscribers (not too sure on their actual subscription).
11 Jan 07
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Originally posted by VargOf course it's misleading,
Not misleading at all since if the small proportion of the total population which watches darts on the Beeb is much greater than the number who watch it on SKY then a greater number of people will consider the Beeb one "the real thing" regardless of quality.
65 million will have access to the Beeb,
15 million (well over estimated) will have access to sky....and then how many of those will subscribe to Sky Sports
You can't say theres not a disparity there................
Edit- And then theres the lack of choice on terrestial t.v which means in times of desperation people will switch over too the beeb when other channels are showing the same olde reality t.v non sense that they usually show this time of the year...
11 Jan 07
Originally posted by millermanYes, so perhaps more people watch the BBC WC than the SKY one (of course, maybe not) which would make it more prestigious in the eyes of the general public.
Of course it's misleading,
65 million will have access to the Beeb,
15 million (well over estimated) will have access to sky....and then how many of those will subscribe to Sky Sports
You can't say theres not a disparity there................
Personally speaking, I pay no attention to the snooker tournaments, or rugby ones that are on SKY so for me the terrestrial ones are the more important ones.
Millions more have access to terrestrial TV than SKY.
11 Jan 07
Originally posted by VargTrue,
Yes, so perhaps more people watch the BBC WC than the SKY one (of course, maybe not) which would make it more prestigious in the eyes of the general public.
Personally speaking, I pay no attention to the snooker tournaments, or rugby ones that are on SKY so for me the terrestrial ones are the more important ones.
Millions more have access to terrestrial TV than SKY.
But alot of people refuse to watch normal terrestial channels (particually the beeb) because they don't agree with the license fee..
I know alot of people who do this, friends family etc......
They do make arare exception, as you highlighted for the WC, but then it's ITV's coverage that they will watch and not the beebs..
But point taken.....
11 Jan 07
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Originally posted by millermanNow that's just perverse. A comparison between the BBC and ITV is the best argument for a licence fee I've yet seen!
But alot of people refuse to watch normal terrestial channels (particually the beeb) because they don't agree with the license fee..
I know alot of people who do this, friends family etc......
They do make arare exception, as you highlighted for the WC, but then it's ITV's coverage that they will watch and not the beebs..
11 Jan 07
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Originally posted by millermanNot on TV. I could throw over 85 average in my bedroom as a teenager but as soon as I joined the university team, although I ususally won, my average wasn't worth knowing.
...of his 3 dart average were around 85, which i would have a great chance of beating..
Adams probably lands nine-dart finishes weekly in practice. It's doing it under pressure that makes the difference between league players and pro players. And I've played county players who beat me by averaging over 100 who if they came up against the likes of Stompe, Taylor et al, especially on TV, would be made to look very amateur indeed.
11 Jan 07
Originally posted by asromacalcioWell Dah..
Not on TV. I could throw over 85 average in my bedroom as a teenager but as soon as I joined the university team, although I ususally won, my average wasn't worth knowing.
Adams probably lands nine-dart finishes weekly in practice. It's doing it under pressure that makes the difference between league players and pro players. And I've played county pl ...[text shortened]... e likes of Stompe, Taylor et al, especially on TV, would be made to look very amateur indeed.
Of course doing it in front of the cameras and crowds makes a difference. But his playing against fellow professionals, which is why he'll never win this second rate comp.....
And county players are of course a step down from these guys, although saying that i've never seen a county player average over 100 in the super league, and i used to follow my mate on this circuit
12 Jan 07
Martin Adams was ranked and seeded ahead of van Barneveld for most of the BDO championships I remember. Although obviously he never made this count when it mattered, to be ranked higher than somebody who has just made the switch and WON the PDC title is what made me say he'd be a top ten player in the PDC if he made the move. I haven't found any stats, but some have been posted above by another poster.
14 Jan 07
Originally posted by asromacalcioJocky Wilson - Sadly a drunk relying on DSS handouts
Anyway, can you help me, I have some gaps in my knowledge?
Where are they now?
Jocky Wilson
John Lowe
Mike Gregory
Thanks
asromac
John Lowe - Doing stuff for the PDC
Gregory - No idea