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Originally posted by PhlabibitI want to make it clear to our foreign readers that Phlabs opinions about Soccer don't reflect those of the vast majority of his compatriots.
There are 2 nice open spots for soccer. Hockey and NBA stink.
In 5 years, will soccer replace one of them? Hmmm?
My answer....
No.
Why? Soccer stinks.
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Soccer is the fastest growing sport here in the US and while many still agree with Phlabs assessment, their numbers are declining steadily.
Don't be fooled into thinking that the US doesn't care about Soccer or that we don't produce an ever increasing number of world class players.
This isn't 1970 anymore and the US landscape has changed drastically.
14 Jan 07
Originally posted by Red NightActually, soccer was the fastest growing sport in the US, but in the last few years it has been overtaken by lacrosse.
I want to make it clear to our foreign readers that Phlabs opinions about Soccer don't reflect those of the vast majority of his compatriots.
Soccer is the fastest growing sport here in the US and while many still agree with Phlabs assessment, their numbers are declining steadily.
Don't be fooled into thinking that the US doesn't care about Soccer o ...[text shortened]... rld class players.
This isn't 1970 anymore and the US landscape has changed drastically.
As a lifelong (and long life) soccer player and fan, I can tell you that Americans do love soccer, but the MLS is boring soccer. I would much rather miss work to watch a UEFA game than watch a MLS game during primetime and I don't think Beckham will change that.
It's like watching World League (American) Football or watching the NFL.
15 Jan 07
Originally posted by CliffLandinI sort of agree with you. Particularly about watching some of the foreign games over the MLS games.
Actually, soccer was the fastest growing sport in the US, but in the last few years it has been overtaken by lacrosse.
As a lifelong (and long life) soccer player and fan, I can tell you that Americans do love soccer, but the MLS is boring soccer. I would much rather miss work to watch a UEFA game than watch a MLS game during primetime and I don't thi ...[text shortened]... will change that.
It's like watching World League (American) Football or watching the NFL.
However, the MLS is a pretty good league. Better than the old NASL.
Maybe we haven't given it enough of a chance. It's pretty good soccer.
Beckham won't raise the quality of play, but he should raise the level of attention.
15 Jan 07
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$250 Mil... Wasted money. Beckham is and always will be an overated player.
And Victoria Beckham is about as attractive as those buffalo you see on Discovery which are dying of starvation. Seriously, anyone who spends that much money on her appearance and still ends up looking worse is officially a “minger”.
15 Jan 07
Originally posted by EsotericHis contract is only for around 6,000,000 - but his endorsements, including 50% of jersey sales is supposedly worth 50,000,000 - I find that quite hard to believe.
$250 Mil... Wasted money. Beckham is and always will be an overated player.
And Victoria Beckham is about as attractive as those buffalo you see on Discovery which are dying of starvation. Seriously, anyone who spends that much money on her appearance and still ends up looking worse is officially a “minger”.
15 Jan 07
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Originally posted by Red NightI hope you're right but I fear he won't do it for the good reasons. Beckham isn't one of those players that are a beauty to watch (IMO) and only when he scores a scorcher from free kicks is he able to lift a crowd.
Beckham won't raise the quality of play, but he should raise the level of attention.
I hope his over hyping doesn't work against "soccer"'s popularity. If Americans start to think that's the best "soccer" has to offer, it's only natural they'll shy away from it.
15 Jan 07
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Originally posted by Red NightThere are a lot of players in the premier league. Very few of them can be considered to be close to 'wrold class', and none of those are american.
What are there 13 US players in the Premier League?
We came into the last World Cup ranked 5th in the world?
We were the only team in the last cup to play and not lose to Italy.
How a team performs is not the best indicator of the quality of its individuals. A draw against Italy does not give any information about how many, if any, of the US's team are 'world class'.
But maybe for a little fun you would like to name the 'world class' US stars that can be considered equals to Ronaldinho, Zidane, Maldini, etc.? Also tell us about the ones that are adding to this 'ever increasing number' as you put it.
15 Jan 07
Originally posted by ElleEffSeeeNot that I want to appear to be supporting US soccer, but I'll pre-empt the obvious response by asking exactly how many English players can be considered equals to Ronaldinho, Zidane and Maldini?
But maybe for a little fun you would like to name the 'world class' US stars that can be considered equals to Ronaldinho, Zidane, Maldini, etc.? Also tell us about the ones that are adding to this 'ever increasing number' as you put it.
15 Jan 07
Originally posted by ElleEffSeeeThe US doesn't have any players who are the equals of Ronaldinho, Zidane, or Maldini. Neither does England.
There are a lot of players in the premier league. Very few of them can be considered to be close to 'wrold class', and none of those are american.
How a team performs is not the best indicator of the quality of its individuals. A draw against Italy does not give any information about how many, if any, of the US's team are 'world class'.
But maybe f ...[text shortened]... tell us about the ones that are adding to this 'ever increasing number' as you put it.
2 of those three won't play in the next world cup.
The US's best player is probably McBride, but by the next world cup it may be Convey.
Sir Alex Ferguson has called Freddie Adu the best young player in the world.
World Class? Howard, Hahnemann, and Keller.