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17 Mar 11
27 Mar 11
Originally posted by no1marauderHoly crap.
Raise your hand if you had a Final Four of Kentucky, UConn, Butler and VCU.
I whiffed.
Anyone have a logical answer as to who will win the final?
UConn and Kentucky are mild surprises to programs who have done it before.
Butler has been there once but hardly has the resume'
VCU has never sniffed it before.
I think I will guess one way and bet the other. 😞
28 Mar 11
Originally posted by shortcircuitLogical? UConn's got the best player and the best coach in the FF, so they have to be the favorites. Being a favorite, however, hasn't meant much in the last few rounds though.
Holy crap.
Anyone have a logical answer as to who will win the final?
UConn and Kentucky are mild surprises to programs who have done it before.
Butler has been there once but hardly has the resume'
VCU has never sniffed it before.
I think I will guess one way and bet the other. 😞
28 Mar 11
Originally posted by SuzianneWildcats have nothing to hang their heads about. UConn outplayed them in those last two minutes. Made an improbable run.
Yeah, it doesn't look like a fluke, does it? Arizona fought back hard from the 7 point deficit at the half, but UConn hung tough and Arizona loses another heartbreaker in Anaheim. UConn walks away with a 5-0 record against Arizona. 🙁
28 Mar 11
Originally posted by no1marauderAgree, Kemba and Calhoun my be the best, but that combination has lost several times so far in this tournament.
Logical? UConn's got the best player and the best coach in the FF, so they have to be the favorites. Being a favorite, however, hasn't meant much in the last few rounds though.
I wonder which team will bring the largest fan base to the Final Four?
28 Mar 11
It's too bad VCU plays Butler. That deprives us of two more upsets. Now we are relegated to one potential one. Guess the soft spot for Butler has been richly rewarded. Who woulda thunk? Maybe it will all boil down to the team with the coolest coach name. Shaka Smart has got to be best coach name and the hottest commodity after NCG is history! I know Self will never forget the name!
28 Mar 11
Originally posted by scacchipazzoI take it then that you are predicting the winner of the VCU vs Butler game will be the National Champion?
It's too bad VCU plays Butler. That deprives us of two more upsets. Now we are relegated to one potential one. Guess the soft spot for Butler has been richly rewarded. Who woulda thunk? Maybe it will all boil down to the team with the coolest coach name. Shaka Smart has got to be best coach name and the hottest commodity after NCG is history! I know Self will never forget the name!
I mean, that is what you inferred since you said there would be two more upsets were they not paired against each other.
So, which one are you predicting will win it all? Butler or VCU (the one with the "coach with the greatest name"😉
Just curious to hear if you predict at all or offer post mortem I told you so's?
28 Mar 11
It's interesting that a mid-major is now assured of playing in the title game for the second year in a row. What does that do to the arguments made by many on this board that mid-majors don't deserve any chance to play in a NCAA football championship game because they play "weak" schedules in "crappy" conferences?
28 Mar 11
Originally posted by no1marauderThat is apples and oranges actually.
It's interesting that a mid-major is now assured of playing in the title game for the second year in a row. What does that do to the arguments made by many on this board that mid-majors don't deserve any chance to play in a NCAA football championship game because they play "weak" schedules in "crappy" conferences?
You could argue that one school has been the NCAA lacrosse champion for 11 years running, so their football team should be permitted to play.
I am not saying that is your argument here because I know you champion the mid majors.
I also know that you cannot honestly say the schedules of the mid majors are equal to those of the majors...in almost all cases.
I also do not believe they are precluded from playing in the championship, but they do have to convince the pollsters of their worthiness.
I don't see this as being any different than the obvious poll bias that slants hard east and west and negative on central and southwest.
This has been in evidence for many years.
I also don't believe that basketball and football are even close in similarity.
A small school can compete with a limited budget in basketball, whereas in football they are toast.
If you want to see who is the best, rather than who got hot at the right time, cut the field in the basketball back to 32 teams and play double elimination.
One loss and out is so tough because on a given night, a grossly inferior team can dial up the magic while the superior team tosses bricks, and the upsets happen.
That is just my opinion on the matter.
28 Mar 11
Originally posted by shortcircuitsac: A small school can compete with a limited budget in basketball, whereas in football they are toast.
That is apples and oranges actually.
You could argue that one school has been the NCAA lacrosse champion for 11 years running, so their football team should be permitted to play.
I am not saying that is your argument here because I know you champion the mid majors.
I also know that you cannot honestly say the schedules of the mid majors are equal ...[text shortened]... superior team tosses bricks, and the upsets happen.
That is just my opinion on the matter.
How many times do mid-majors have to defeat a power conference team in a major bowl before people stop saying this?
28 Mar 11
Originally posted by no1marauderHonestly? At least several more times.
sac: A small school can compete with a limited budget in basketball, whereas in football they are toast.
How many times do mid-majors have to defeat a power conference team in a major bowl before people stop saying this?
Again, this one game mentality and the David vs Goliath personification is motivation.
Let them play a steady diet of those games and see if they can do it consistently.
Surely you don't think they would beat a steady diet of the top caliber teams.
And, to be fair, even the power conference teams don't all beat other power teams all the time.
I, for one, think they ought to do away with automatic bids altogether.
There are conferences that get one that are not as good as some mid major teams.
But, as soon as you do away with automatics, it becomes a popularity contest again.
It is a double edged sword no matter how you look at it, in my opinion.
29 Mar 11
Originally posted by shortcircuitYou know I picked Butler all along, so don't pretend otherwise. you know it all after all! Where's your brackets? IN THE TRASH HEAP! but you're the genius of sports, oh all knowing one! BTW Impressed you can spell inferred!
I take it then that you are predicting the winner of the VCU vs Butler game will be the National Champion?
I mean, that is what you inferred since you said there would be two more upsets were they not paired against each other.
So, which one are you predicting will win it all? Butler or VCU (the one with the "coach with the greatest name"😉
Just curious to hear if you predict at all or offer post mortem I told you so's?
29 Mar 11
Originally posted by no1marauderDifferent sports. Not really comparable, but I would love a playoff in NCAAF! March Madness has been one of the best and most exciting. It would be cool to see a David-Goliath match and David prevail!
It's interesting that a mid-major is now assured of playing in the title game for the second year in a row. What does that do to the arguments made by many on this board that mid-majors don't deserve any chance to play in a NCAA football championship game because they play "weak" schedules in "crappy" conferences?
29 Mar 11
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Originally posted by scacchipazzoYou did not pick Butler to win it all.
You know I picked Butler all along, so don't pretend otherwise. you know it all after all! Where's your brackets? IN THE TRASH HEAP! but you're the genius of sports, oh all knowing one! BTW Impressed you can spell inferred!
Show me the post where you said that.
I am rooting for OSU all the way! Tender spot for Butler or any small school making a run and showing the Wronghorns of the world how things are done. See at UT is Whine and Dine since they can't spell. I also like Duke.
Do you consider this to be your "declaration" that Butler would win? LMAO!!!
You are a moron and a liar!!!!
The field isn't very deep this year. It's virtually anyone's tournament to win. OSU has as good a chance as anyone. You think a #1 seed winning it all is like a perfect storm? If Butler won it all I'd say that was a perfect storm. Don't think Butler will get past Wisconsin.
Or was this your "bold" prediction that they would win it? (Oh, although you didn't think they would get by Wisconsin). LMAO!!!!
How about this gem you posted??
Indeed I never posted my brackets. Don't want to or have to. I prefer to comment on your obvious wrong ones.
See, you don't have the brains or the sack, just a mouth that second guesses.
Well, you are busted. Try to wiggle your way out of what you posted. What a rube you are.
If you haven't got the guts to lay your picks out BEFORE the games happen, try not to pass yourself off as knowledgeable after the fact.
If you would like I can show where I pulled your exact quotes from in this thread.
I said from the beginning I picked Butler to win their first two games.
But, are you saying NOW that Butler will win it all?
A simple yes or no will suffice.
29 Mar 11
Originally posted by no1marauderThere are only 2 spots in the football championship game; that's the difference. If football would have a 16 team tournament (or at least an 8 team tourney), there would be room for weaker conference teams to get their shot. As it is, it's simply not fair to give a team that beat up on 8 or 9 tomato cans and has 3 or 4 good wins a shot at the title over a team that slogged its way through 7 straight tough games in the SEC or Pac-10.
It's interesting that a mid-major is now assured of playing in the title game for the second year in a row. What does that do to the arguments made by many on this board that mid-majors don't deserve any chance to play in a NCAA football championship game because they play "weak" schedules in "crappy" conferences?
30 Mar 11
College basketball is exactly why I am against a playoff system for football. The eight best teams in the regular season are all out. So it is pretty clear to be the best team doesn't win. Now we have a final four with teams like VCU who accomplished so little before the tournament that they had to play in a play-in game, or U Conn who was 9th in the big east (before th Big east tournamant) but also in the final four then how can anyone argue the regular season really matters. The regular season does not matter and I no longer watch it.
The once a week schedule forces football to have a limited schedule. I'd prefer making each game count, not just have a big tournament in which anyone could win. I want to see teams play the best teams win their games and be rewarded for their wins. The idea of a champion coming exclusively from one tournamnet cheapens the idea of what being the best for season really is.