22 Apr 13
Originally posted by FMFI'm wondering what excites you in cricket. So I went back to the BBC online commentary for that innings...
"I am not interested in "the look on Dale Steyn's face when AB de Villiers hits him for 20 in an over"
But I was interested in the looks on everybody's faces when England, in deepest peril, recently batted out the last day of the last test of an enthralling series between supposed giants (struggling) and supposed minnows (New Zealand, so nearly triumph ...[text shortened]... I watched about 6 IPL games two years ago and cannot remember what happened in any of them!
"Stuart Broad sets a new Test record for the longest time at the crease without scoring. It took 103 minutes and 62 balls to get off the mark."
I'll let Robbie finish off.
22 Apr 13
Originally posted by thaughbaerLOL, classic!
I'm wondering what excites you in cricket. So I went back to the BBC online commentary for that innings...
"Stuart Broad sets a new Test record for the longest time at the crease without scoring. It took 103 minutes and 62 balls to get off the mark."
I'll let Robbie finish off.
22 Apr 13
Originally posted by thaughbaerIf your interest is in T20 and not Tests, no one can expect you to understand what significance or extraordinary drama there was in Stuart Broad's innings and the match saving performances by Matt Prior and Ian Bell and others. No one expects you to understand ~ I certainly don't need you to ~ you've said that test cricket is not your area of interest. However, I DO know what last ball wins are like in limited overs cricket; I have seen plenty of them. I can understand the appeal, I just don't need to see it.
I'm wondering what excites you in cricket. So I went back to the BBC online commentary for that innings...
"Stuart Broad sets a new Test record for the longest time at the crease without scoring. It took 103 minutes and 62 balls to get off the mark."
22 Apr 13
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell then, I wouldn't expect you to be concerned by the possible impacts of the T20 format on the other formats of cricket. I am not sure why my concern provoked personal remarks from you. How does my concern for the wider game of cricket affect your enjoyment of IPL?
I used to listen to TMS when Nasser Hussain was captain of England, but no, i have never followed county cricket. Apart from the IPL, ill maybe watch the world cup, but that's about it and some of the Ashes, if the Aussies are winning.
22 Apr 13
5 edits
Originally posted by FMFYour words were indicative of the type of snobbery one meets all the time. Meaningless is how you described it, you described batsmen as 'bashers, or sloggers', words to that effect, stated that its inferior, produces second rate players, etc etc
Well then, I wouldn't expect you to be concerned by the possible impacts of the T20 format on the other formats of cricket. I am not sure why my concern provoked personal remarks from you. How does my concern for the wider game of cricket affect your enjoyment of IPL?
103 minutes, without scoring a single run, ouch! must have been electrifying for you. As for personal remarks, its just trash talk FMF, you know I like you really 🙂
22 Apr 13
1 edit
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI don't see how me preferring A over B is "snobbery" except in your mind. Why on earth would you think so? If someone preferred EPL football over 5-a-side, would that be "snobbery"?
Your words were indicative of the type of snobbery one meets all the time. Meaningless is how you described it, you described batsmen as 'bashers, or sloggers', words to that effect, stated that its inferior, produces second rate players, etc etc
As for "bashers", the Australian domestic T20 is called The Big Bash.
As for "sloggers", a "slog" is cricket term for a risky shot using a technique that may bring a boundary but it lowers the value you place on occupying the crease.
I find the increasing number of T20 games makes them more and more meaningless, that's right. I could say something similar about the sheer quantity of games played in the NBA or MLB. How is that "snobbery"?
As for an over-emphasis on T20 producing "inferior players" in terms of test cricket, well yes that is going to happen ~ for the reasons I have given ~ and some commentators think it is already happening.
22 Apr 13
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHow does my concern about the impact of T20 on cricket as a whole, or my preference for the kind of sporting contests/dramas that test cricket produces, affect your enjoyment of IPL? Why does it provoke such hostility from you?
103 minutes, without scoring a single run, ouch! must have been electrifying for you.
22 Apr 13
2 edits
Originally posted by FMFsnob
I don't see how me preferring A over B is [b]"snobbery" except in your mind. Why on earth would you think so? If someone preferred EPL football over 5-a-side, would that be "snobbery"?
As for "bashers", the Australian domestic T20 is called The Big Bash.
As for "sloggers", a "slog" is cricket term for a risky shot using a technique that the reasons I have given ~ and some commentators think it is already happening.[/b]
2. a person who believes himself or herself to have superior tastes and is condescending toward those with different tastes: an intellectual snob.
meaningless, inferior, rather watch baseball, not worth remembering, produces inferior players, has an adverse effect on first class and test cricket, batsmen are bashers and sloggers.
fine you dont like 20/20 or the IPL, but its hardly any less meaningless than other forms, others find it rather memorable and entertaining , it has as yet not be proven to have any type of adverse effect on other forms and some of the batsmen and bowlers that play in the IPL are the best in the world, some in the entire history of the game.
22 Apr 13
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI prefer test cricket to T20. I think test cricket is superior to T20.
snob
2. a person who believes himself or herself to have superior tastes and is condescending toward those with different tastes: an intellectual snob.
meaningless, inferior, rather watch baseball, not worth remembering,
You prefer T20 to test cricket. You think T20 is superior to test cricket.
How does this difference of opinion make me a snob and you not a snob?
Where have I been "condescending"?
22 Apr 13
Originally posted by FMFSomeone who said that 5-a-side had ruined the EPL or that they were not interested in 5-a-side might be considered a snob. That you "prefer" test cricket to T20 is an understatement. To be more accurate you are completely dismissive of T20.
I don't see how me preferring A over B is [b]"snobbery" except in your mind. Why on earth would you think so? If someone preferred EPL football over 5-a-side, would that be "snobbery"?
As for "bashers", the Australian domestic T20 is called The Big Bash.
As for "sloggers", a "slog" is cricket term for a risky shot using a technique that ...[text shortened]... the reasons I have given ~ and some commentators think it is already happening.[/b]
Certainly there are a higher number of boundaries and sixes per ball than in test cricket. This does not mean that they are not quality batting shots. To call them "slogs" is disrespectful. These are the world's top batsmen showing levels of skill and innovation that only exist in T20.
22 Apr 13
Originally posted by FMFI dont think T20 is superior, I do think the IPL is more entertaining however.
I prefer test cricket to T20. I think test cricket is superior to T20.
You prefer T20 to test cricket. You think T20 is superior to test cricket.
How does this difference of opinion make me a snob and you not a snob?
Where have I been "condescending"?
22 Apr 13
Originally posted by thaughbaerIf i ever need a lawyer, can i have your number 😀
Someone who said that 5-a-side had ruined the EPL or that they were not interested in 5-a-side might be considered a snob. That you "prefer" test cricket to T20 is an understatement. To be more accurate you are completely dismissive of T20.
Certainly there are a higher number of boundaries and sixes per ball than in test cricket. This does not mean tha ...[text shortened]... are the world's top batsmen showing levels of skill and innovation that only exist in T20.