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Originally posted by sbacat
So Jasen777 at roughly 1900, Thomaster at 1490, and me at 1540. We each play the other two. Jasen777's goliath in both, Thomaster is David in both, and I am one and one.

Whoever wins their two games is finalist and if there's a three-way split we go again.

Trev33 sets the handicap targets and away we go!
Wasn't it: 50 - (rating gap/20) ?

Jasen777 1900
Thomaster 1500
sbacat 1540

Jasen777 - Thomaster 30 moves (50 - (400/20))
Jasen777 - sbacat 32 moves (50 - (360/20))
sbacat - Thomaster 48 moves (50 - (40/20))

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Originally posted by Thomaster
Wasn't it: 50 - (rating gap/20) ?

Jasen777 1900
Thomaster 1500
sbacat 1540

Jasen777 - Thomaster 30 moves (50 - (400/20))
Jasen777 - sbacat 32 moves (50 - (360/20))
sbacat - Thomaster 48 moves (50 - (40/20))
I think that formula is correct, but I posted the wrong ratings (I think). If it's based on the tournament rating (and mine has gone up a bit since I posted), you'd get:

Jasen777 vs Thomaster 30
Thomaster vs Sbacat 43
Jasen777 vs Sbacat 37

Now that should make for some interesting games!

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Originally posted by sbacat
I think that formula is correct, but I posted the wrong ratings (I think). If it's based on the tournament rating (and mine has gone up a bit since I posted), you'd get:

Jasen777 vs Thomaster 30
Thomaster vs Sbacat 43
Jasen777 vs Sbacat 37

Now [b]that
should make for some interesting games![/b]
Jasen777 - 1925 -> 1920
sbacat - 1673 -> 1680
Thomaster - 1519 -> 1520

Jasen777 - sbacat 38
Jasen777 - Thomaster 30
sbacat - Thomaster 42

Jasen777's and my tournament ratings are a little higher than our normal ratings.

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Originally posted by Thomaster
Jasen777 - 1925 -> 1920
sbacat - 1673 -> 1680
Thomaster - 1519 -> 1520

Jasen777 - sbacat 38
Jasen777 - Thomaster 30
sbacat - Thomaster 42

Jasen777's and my tournament ratings are a little higher than our normal ratings.
this tournament runs itself 😵

do you need me to send everyone a congratulations pm's and say the ratings or can we just go by this post and you all set up the games?

yes i am very lazy but congrats on getting to the final everyone 🙂

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Originally posted by trev33
this tournament runs itself 😵

do you need me to send everyone a congratulations pm's and say the ratings or can we just go by this post and you all set up the games?

yes i am very lazy but congrats on getting to the final everyone 🙂
I'm good to go. Will report back here when there's news.

Thanks for dreaming this up,
Steve

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Originally posted by trev33
do you need me to send everyone a congratulations pm's and say the ratings or can we just go by this post and you all set up the games?

yes i am very lazy but congrats on getting to the final everyone 🙂
Yes. Please send me a pm.

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Originally posted by Thomaster
Yes. Please send me a pm.
on any particular topic?

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Originally posted by trev33
on any particular topic?
on the upcoming holidays and the fact that I'm the only non-sub left.

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I have failed to checkmate sbacat in the required number of moves.

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Originally posted by Jasen777
I have failed to checkmate sbacat in the required number of moves.
Game 6475010

Jasen777 presented a very strong and intricate opening. I count myself very fortunate to have held him off.

Steve

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Game 6474991

Thomaster demolished me in this one. If Jasen777 wins their match, we're one one and one. If Jasen777 doesn't win, then Thomaster is the overall winner.

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I have failed to checkmate Thomaster in the required number of moves.

That makes Thomaster the tournament winner. Congrats.

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😀

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So what have we learned from this little experiment?

How true is rating as an indicator of playing strength?
Was trev33's formula for targeting checkmate accurate?

Now that we have more detailed statistics in our profiles, might those be factored in to a next round of handicap tournament?

Is Jasen777's idea of a handicap tournament where the rating difference means goliath losing pieces instead of having to mate within a move cap worth exploring?

Are the upcoming improvements like Chess 960 going to bring a whole range of alternative tournament possibilities to the jaded masses yearning for novelty?

The mind boggles!

Many thanks to trev33 for dreaming this up and keeping it lurching forward. And congratulations to Thomaster for playing both Goliath and David so damnably well. 😉

Steve

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Originally posted by sbacat
Is Jasen777's idea of a handicap tournament where the rating difference means goliath losing pieces instead of having to mate within a move cap worth exploring?
I would be willing to organize such a tournament if there is sufficient interest.

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