Clan Forum Dying?

@mghrn55

I WAS talking about individual ratings for clan games.
It was done for clubs so it can be done for the clans.
It makes no difference to me...the clan thing is dying.

@mghrn55

Play fair and police the system when they don't?

Your team has multiple players with 60 percent win rate or higher.
That is mathematically impossible without a subsequent rating increase which would balance out the win/loss record to 50% average.

If this doesn't happen then they are throwing casual games and taking the clan games more serious.

Or they are playing people rated below them which I have been told by all clan leaders who post....that doesn't happen....

So the answer is the first one.
Clan members are sandbagging.

@wycombe-al said
@Relentless-Red i think also there are too many clans, maybe clan divisions would work with promotion and relegation each year and play off places, say 20 clans in each division

@wycombe-al said
@C-I-V clan rating a good idea in my opinion

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@mghrn55 said
That was proposed back in 2017.
The beta version that Russ presented back then was wrong in concept.
That was to assign a rating to clans which never worked.
What we wanted was to have a separate rating for players for clan games.
But that would have meant building a new index for each player, which meant a database change, which is usually considerable IT work from my e ...[text shortened]... spect of the clan feature.
Counting on players to play fair. And police the system when they don't.

@lemondrop said
all them troublemakers have since vanished
the clan feature is strong and healthy

On the subject of the clan system dying,I had a look on the "clans" page and the number of pages of clans stops after 5(unless it's an anomaly on my machine) and some of those aren't very active
When I was clan leader I'm sure there were more clans than 5 pages worth so that would suggest the clan system is not that healthy

@venda yep there were more active clans, i think tournaments are a lot more attractive to players these days, some of the clubs have very large active numbers. i think also one or two clans having a stanglehold over then clan title
for many years made it all a bit tiresome, reason i stopped watching the premiership years ago!

"i think also one or two clans having a stanglehold over then clan title"
The problem "as ever" is that all anyone ever looks at in the clan list is net points.
This also spawns all the interminable debates over the years on how points are allocated
If you filter on "most challenges won" you get a different picture.
It's still not a genuine measure of course because of the numbers of challenges played by each clan

@venda i think the current clan format doesn't work, i liked the clan leagues format but sadly it was not popular, i think clan leagues needs to come back as the incentive to play in a clan

@wycombe-al said
@venda i think the current clan format doesn't work, i liked the clan leagues format but sadly it was not popular, i think clan leagues needs to come back as the incentive to play in a clan

@woofwoof said
"maybe clan divisions would work with promotion and relegation each year"

That's not a half-bad idea right there.

@venda said
On the subject of the clan system dying,I had a look on the "clans" page and the number of pages of clans stops after 5(unless it's an anomaly on my machine) and some of those aren't very active
When I was clan leader I'm sure there were more clans than 5 pages worth so that would suggest the clan system is not that healthy

@woofwoof said
"maybe clan divisions would work with promotion and relegation each year"

That's not a half-bad idea right there.