12 Jul 09
Originally posted by badmoonWell, it's hard to deny the sound quality of an LP is simply lower than that of a CD or (reasonably compressed) MP3. It also holds less data than a CD, MP3 player or a hard drive, so other than not wanting to throw your old records away there is really no reason to use vinyl.
Man you are one arrogant prig. Tell us - how can we be more like you?? Please oh please wise uzless one.
Excuse us for sharing your planet.
12 Jul 09
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Originally posted by KazetNagorraWhen cds first came out that was very debatable. But in recent years cd sound has advanced and does sound better.
Well, it's hard to deny the sound quality of an LP is simply lower than that of a CD or (reasonably compressed) MP3. It also holds less data than a CD, MP3 player or a hard drive, so other than not wanting to throw your old records away there is really no reason to use vinyl.
I bought a lot of lps in the 70s including many by special order. I've looked all over and there are many that I can't find either digitally or on cd.
But uzless, who may be a real kidder, does come off as a real dildo sometimes. But he likes hockey so I'll give him some credit there.
13 Jul 09
Originally posted by darvlay"Many" doesn't equate to most.
Many people prefer vinyl for the art/packaging, the "warmth" of the sound and for their collections. Your Grampy Bobby-ish generalizations are quite laughable.
But, to see who is right on this one, let's wait 2 years and see how vinyl sales are doing.
The point, that i'm not sure anyone actually discussed, is that MOST people are not paying for entire albums on itunes..they are just downloading one or two tracks from an album. This cherrypicking is what Astbury is talking about when he says that albums are dead/dying. It is also the reason he says that bands like his will likely just put out single songs instead of entire albums in the future. It's alot cheaper for an independant/signed band to do 2 or 3 singles in a studio rather than 10-12.
In case the inference wasn't clear, not only is vinly dead to all but the hardcore, CD's are also on their way out. Surely, as you ipod people must have noticed, not many people carry around their pack of zipper cases jammed full of cd's anymore.
13 Jul 09
Originally posted by uzlessMy bad. I meant many people who buy vinyl.
"Many" doesn't equate to most.
But, to see who is right on this one, let's wait 2 years and see how vinyl sales are doing.
The point, that i'm not sure anyone actually discussed, is that MOST people are not paying for entire albums on itunes..they are just downloading one or two tracks from an album. This cherrypicking is what Astbury is talking abo ...[text shortened]... , not many people carry around their pack of zipper cases jammed full of cd's anymore.
13 Jul 09
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Originally posted by KazetNagorraThis is true...many people (like me) are not inclined to go online and search out new bands. There is good new music out there but unless you are young and/or have a bunch of music-minded friends it's a pain in the ass.
You just haven't done any effort to find good modern rock music.
Back in the day when radio stations were mostly indpendently owned and operated, you could just turn on your favourite new music radio station and catch up with new/emerging bands. Today with radio stations being owned by the same companies that own the large record labels, the radio listener is stuck listening (to a large degree) the bands that are signed by the labels owned by the corporation (think viacom/corus) or bands that fit the corporate image. Playlists don't change very often or are limited to select few and repeated ad-naseum throughout the day.
We used to just be able to turn on the radio and get our new-music fix....passively. Now it's all active searching. Visiting websites, clicking on audio streams, downloading webcasts, going to the bands website or myspace page, deleting the junk and separating the good from the bad....and then uploading it all to your computer or ipod.
That's alot of effort versus just turning the radio on while watching a ballgame. And most of us aren't willing to make that effort and its why we don't think there is alot of good music these days. Some bands that I wouldn't say are totally "new" but have really slipped under the radar of modern radio and are def worth checking out are:
Mountain Goats
Calexico
Iron and Wine
Black Angels
13 Jul 09
Originally posted by uzlessSurfing the Internet is a big effort? For pity's sake.
This is true...many people (like me) are not inclined to go online and search out new bands. There is good new music out there but unless you are young and/or have a bunch of music-minded friends it's a pain in the ass.
Back in the day when radio stations were mostly indpendently owned and operated, you could just turn on your favourite new music radio ...[text shortened]... re def worth checking out are:
Mountain Goats
Calexico
Iron and Wine
Black Angels
13 Jul 09
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Originally posted by Bosse de NageSurfing the net just FOR NEW MUSIC is a big effort for alot of people. Anyone with kids and jobs and home repairs and vacations and grocery shopping and bill payments and house hunting and excerising and sports activities and general tv watching among a billion other activities doesn't leave much time for, "Hmm, i wonder if there are any new interesting bands I can find on the internet..."
Surfing the Internet is a big effort? For pity's sake.
That stuff, for the average person (I realize this is a chess site and therefore not a true representation of society), can limit your exposure time to new bands. Isn't that obvious or am I the only one here?
13 Jul 09
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Originally posted by uzlessBelieve it or not, my usless compadre, I tend to agree with you. I do strive to find new music and will sometimes view the youtube songs that are recommended on these threads. But you know what? It generally is a waste of time.
Surfing the net just FOR NEW MUSIC is a big effort for alot of people. Anyone with kids and jobs and home repairs and vacations and grocery shopping and bill payments and house hunting and excerising and sports activities and general tv watching among a billion other activities doesn't leave much time for, "Hmm, i wonder if there are any new interesting ban ), can limit your exposure time to new bands. Isn't that obvious or am I the only one here?
Seldom do I find any unique or qualty "voices" on bass, drums or guitar in new rock bands. In fact they sound like they are all using the same rhythm section. The songwriting has become mundane and shows no new direction.
Is rock dying? I asure hate to answer that one.
By the way my kids are adults now and are living their own adventures so that does free me up some. But life and the hours is and are still so, so short.
13 Jul 09
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Originally posted by badmoonI go to these sites for the "modern" rock suggestions:
Believe it or not, my usless compadre, I tend to agree with you. I do strive to find new music and will sometimes view the youtube songs that are recommended on these threads. But you know what? It generally is a waste of time.
Seldom do I find any unique or qualty "voices" on bass, drums or guitar in new rock bands. In fact they sound like they are a ...[text shortened]... dventures so that does free me up some. But life and the hours is and are still so, so short.
exploremusic.ca
audioporncentral.com
vampirefreaks.com
But you are correct....I'd say about 80% of it goes straight into the recycle bin. Pandora.com was great before they cut off access from Canada. I find lastfm to be a waste of my time.
I do recommend Moby's "Pale horses" highly though. Check out the youtube video...
13 Jul 09
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Originally posted by uzlessI have all of those things, minus the sport and general tv (LOL, watching tv is such an essential chore). But I manage to find new stuff -- fantastic mind-blowing stuff I've never heard in my life -- ALL THE TIME -- and it takes no more than fifteen, and sometimes as few as five, minutes a day!!! No doubt I'm an amazing music magnet!
Surfing the net just FOR NEW MUSIC is a big effort for alot of people. Anyone with kids and jobs and home repairs and vacations and grocery shopping and bill payments and house hunting and excerising and sports activities and general tv watching among a billion other activities doesn't leave much time for, "Hmm, i wonder if there are any new interesting bands I can find on the internet..."
(I'd let you in on my secret but you're probably too busy watching sports on tv and stuff.)
13 Jul 09
Originally posted by Bosse de Nageyes, watching the news on tv is such a waste of time. Who wants to be informed anyway? Sure it may provide some insights that are overlooked on the news sites i go to such as;
I have all of those things, minus the sport and general tv (LOL, watching tv is such an essential chore). But I manage to find new stuff -- fantastic mind-blowing stuff I've never heard in my life -- ALL THE TIME -- and it takes no more than fifteen, and sometimes as few as five, minutes a day!!! No doubt I'm an amazing music magnet!
(I'd let you in on my secret but you're probably too busy watching sports on tv and stuff.)
globeandmail.com
thestar.com
nytimes.com
but who needs that local perspective anyway....
why don't you enlighten us and give us your suggestions for internet dating, i mean, internet music searching. I've already given 5 in the post above. Or are you like Palynka and have nothing to offer other than proof 1000 monkeys typing on a keyboard eventually do type out words?
13 Jul 09
Originally posted by uzlessWow, what hard-core news sites, man! Congratulations.
why don't you enlighten us and give us your suggestions for internet dating, i mean, internet music searching. I've already given 5 in the post above. Or are you like Palynka and have nothing to offer other than proof 1000 monkeys typing on a keyboard eventually do type out words?
When did Palynka prove that 1000 monkeys typing on a keyboard (the same keyboard? a longboard?) eventually typed out words? I'd have to see that before I believe it.
13 Jul 09
the common theme I'm hearing hear is, to paraphrase, "i'm to old for this modern rock and or roll". Well rock and roll is not for the old at heart. You know a great way to find new music? Get off your lazy but and go to shows. People there talk about, guess what? Music. I don't care what technology is dominate now or back in the "good old days" Bands still need to play live and in my opinion it is ALWAYS better than an album cd, mp3 or whatever. Frankly I am glad you old fogies don't run the music world anymore, it is time for some new blood. Be young at heart or step aside and shut up.
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Originally posted by StTitoDo you dispute the point that rock these days, at least for young bands, have pushed aside any real individuality on playing the instruments?
the common theme I'm hearing hear is, to paraphrase, "i'm to old for this modern rock and or roll". Well rock and roll is not for the old at heart. You know a great way to find new music? Get off your lazy but and go to shows. People there talk about, guess what? Music. I don't care what technology is dominate now or back in the "good old days" Bands still ne rld anymore, it is time for some new blood. Be young at heart or step aside and shut up.