02 Sep 09
Originally posted by Bosse de NageWhat's the definition of mainstream? Presence in the media? Gothic was never more on radios than in the 80s.
You see right. It's just that dark music became mainstream in the 1990s. As for the economic analogies, map them onto the trajectory plotted by The Cure; and weep.
But go ahead, buy the sound-bytes and the two-line explanations.
02 Sep 09
Originally posted by PalynkaWell, one day I looked up from my comic book and everybody was listening to Nirvana and other noisy bands. Even the commercial radio stations were playing them! Perhaps that confused me; at any rate, I thought that this noisy music was quite commercial in its way. Somehow, at the same time, the music I really enjoyed vanished from the airwaves completely.
What's the definition of mainstream? Presence in the media? Gothic was never more on radios than in the 80s.
But go ahead, buy the sound-bytes and the two-line explanations.
02 Sep 09
Originally posted by Bosse de NageYes, but this is again at a supposedly happy decade. The spawn of Limp Bizkit/Linkin Park wannabes in the beginning of the 2000s made noisy music even more mainstream than ever.
That's kind of what I was getting at.
The thing is that it's easy to push bands before or after by focusing on popularity peaks or formation or whatever in order to make the puzzle fit. It's basically self-delusion.
02 Sep 09
Originally posted by PalynkaAbsolutely.
Yes, but this is again at a supposedly happy decade. The spawn of Limp Bizkit/Linkin Park wannabes in the beginning of the 2000s made noisy music even more mainstream than ever.
The thing is that it's easy to push bands before or after by focusing on popularity peaks or formation or whatever in order to make the puzzle fit. It's basically self-delusion.
Were the Sex Pistols a punk band or a boy band?
02 Sep 09
Originally posted by PalynkaI'd never heard of Take That, until I bought what I thought was an old CD of Elton John's--Don't Shoot Me...- and it included 4 songs not on the original album. In the "album notes", there was a mention of Take That, so I googled them. It seems I completely missed a pop phenomenon that sold a bazillion records. How did that happen?.....
Spice Girls and Take That predated the rise of the dotcom bubble. Anyway, when I look at the 80s I see A LOT of dark music. But maybe that's just bias.
02 Sep 09
Originally posted by PinkFloydYou got lucky. 😀
I'd never heard of Take That, until I bought what I thought was an old CD of Elton John's--Don't Shoot Me...- and it included 4 songs not on the original album. In the "album notes", there was a mention of Take That, so I googled them. It seems I completely missed a pop phenomenon that sold a bazillion records. How did that happen?.....
03 Sep 09
Originally posted by Palynkaearly 2000 saw a recession in the economy by the way...anyone remember the dot com crash?
Yes, but this is again at a supposedly happy decade. The spawn of Limp Bizkit/Linkin Park wannabes in the beginning of the 2000s made noisy music even more mainstream than ever.
The thing is that it's easy to push bands before or after by focusing on popularity peaks or formation or whatever in order to make the puzzle fit. It's basically self-delusion.
03 Sep 09
Originally posted by uzlessYes, there were already 2 recessions and a boom period in the 2000s, but you keep fitting whatever you like to which part you like.
early 2000 saw a recession in the economy by the way...anyone remember the dot com crash?
Don't you just love all those degrees of freedom?