@earl-of-trumps saidTrump is the bigger threat.
@mghrn55
Solve the most pressing issue first !!
That being, address the protection of democracy.
It is under threat right now.
Well said and I agree. That is the single pressing issue, now that BLM has shown
itself to be a Marxist revolutionary group.
He has definite authoritarian leanings.
@mghrn55 saidWhat Trump's attitude may convey to you and what he is able to do in that
Trump is the bigger threat.
He has definite authoritarian leanings.
regard are two very different things. And I think you know that.
But Marxists are TRUE democracy smashers and they are *right now* the militant
wing of the Democratic Party.
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@mghrn55 saidMGM, you are putting us to sleep. You fellers rave on that Trump 'has authoritarian leanings." But last week, VP Biden said 'he would use the power of the executive branch to do everything possible to MAKE mask-wearing in public a requirement". Make???? Authoritarian, maybe?
Trump is the bigger threat.
He has definite authoritarian leanings.
Marauder just said in another thread, he just said it, that Trump has no power to slap a 10 year jail term on a cretin that knocks a statue down. He does. It is valid until some other entity undoes it. So, is that authoritarian? Are Biden's comments?. You 2 are a confusing lot. Neither of you makes sense.
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@averagejoe1 saidAre you comparing someone who sent out secret police to snatch people exercising their constitutional right to protest off the street into unmarked vehicles....to requiring masks because not doing so can spread death?
MGM, you are putting us to sleep. You fellers rave on that Trump 'has authoritarian leanings." But last week, VP Biden said 'he would use the power of the executive branch to do everything possible to MAKE mask-wearing in public a requirement". Make???? Authoritarian, maybe?
What is wrong with you?
@vivify saidThey have a constitutional right to protest, not to light the city on fire for gawd's sake
Are you comparing someone who sent out secret police to snatch people exercising their constitutional right to protest off the street into unmarked vehicles....to requiring masks because not doing so can spread death?
What is wrong with you?
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Someone had my post about backward-ass country bunks and hillbillies removed?
Must have become an issue for the thin-skinned. Next time I'll refer to them as "jackanapes sunburned by scorching southern sun". Seems like eating it and dishing it have become incompatible in here. The inevitable result: Debate Forum starvation.
White supremacist vigilante wannabes in the back of pick-up trucks, spitting paint balls and pepper spray all while threatening the use of long guns is so appealing: Especially during a peaceful protest.
I'll take advice from one of them the day that hell sells popsicles.
Seriously though, that guy seems nice enough. I've seen his videos before. But, unfortunately, he represents just a sliver of our nation's current reality in perspective.
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@earl-of-trumps saidMeanwhile walking down the middle of the street picking-off random protesters with an AR-15 is a perfectly pacifying response.
They have a constitutional right to protest, not to light the city on fire for gawd's sake
No possible escalation in sight: Great technique there right-wing zealots.
Honestly though, this is a serious situation and must be negotiated rationally by sane, unselfish people from both sides.
The alternative is unthinkable.
"An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind."
Mahatma Gandhi
@earl-of-trumps saidEarl's hysterical exaggerations are fueled by excessive watching of OAN and reading of Breitbart, not by any actual reality:
They have a constitutional right to protest, not to light the city on fire for gawd's sake
"Protests in Portland following the killing of Floyd, an unarmed Black man who died in the custody of Minneapolis police in May, had dwindled to maybe 100 peaceful demonstrators per night before President Trump sent federal agents to the city, ostensibly to protect US government property. Portland and Oregon officials, all the way up to Governor Kate Brown, have criticized the deployment as an unwelcome, unnecessary overreach. Portlanders are enraged by what they see as an occupation of their city and a step toward fascism, particularly after the officers, who are not trained in crowd control, began detaining people without clear cause. Protest attendance—and violence—has increased exponentially since their arrival during the Fourth of July weekend, and not just in Portland. As Rose City’s protests wear on and Trump promises to send a “surge” of law enforcement officers to other Democrat-run cities like New York and Chicago, people across the country have begun protesting in solidarity.
Trump and his backers assert that the deployments are necessary to curb unrest in cities that have become anarchic war zones. You’d be hard-pressed to prove that’s true in Portland if you bothered to look anywhere but Lownsdale Square at midnight. (The only disruptive anarchists in my neighborhood are the crows in my garden.) If any widespread, persistent Portland protest war zone does exist, it isn’t in physical space at all. It’s online.
Anything that happens during a Portland protest happens in front of at least one camera and will end up on the internet. The crowd is full of smartphones. Men in press helmets climb up streetlights with expensive rigs to get a better view. People at the protest pulled up livestreams to see what was happening at the front of the crowd, squinting to see if the Feds had left their fortress yet. The federal agents watched those livestreams too. Ergo, anything that happens at a Portland protest is meme fodder and a chance for good or bad online PR."
https://www.wired.com/story/portland-protests-online/
Earl's got entire cities in "ashes" in his dystopic, Bizarro World. I'm not sure he actually believes it (though he does believe a lot of utter nonsense) or just pedals the propaganda that he feels is the last hope for Donald to make the US suffer for 4 more years.
@WOLFE63 Honestly though, this is a serious situation and must be negotiated rationally by sane, unselfish people from both sides.
The alternative is unthinkable.
The alternative, we have.
These protesters have been everything but peaceful for 15 weeks. "Rational
people" would have ended it long long ago but it has been allowed to fester.
There's your problem.
@no1marauder Earl's hysterical exaggerations are fueled by excessive watching of OAN and reading of Breitbart, not by any actual reality:
You're a flat-out bleeping liar. I don't watch TV and have no idea what OAN is,
and I do not read Breitbart on a regular basis.
You're the same d-head that keeps trying to tell me I am not a Libertarian, too.
Stuff you.,
@no1marauder saidundoubtedly marerider cant see the flames in the background.
Earl's hysterical exaggerations are fueled by excessive watching of OAN and reading of Breitbart, not by any actual reality:
"Protests in Portland following the killing of Floyd, an unarmed Black man who died in the custody of Minneapolis police in May, had dwindled to maybe 100 peaceful demonstrators per night before President Trump sent federal agents to the city, os ...[text shortened]... als the propaganda that he feels is the last hope for Donald to make the US suffer for 4 more years.
@Earl-of-Trumps
That is who Trump listens to and then makes policy decisions based on what those talking heads say.
All the while ignoring real advice from intel professionals as if talking heads are more reliable than the folks who spend their entire professional career trying to protect America from adversaries.
As opposed to Trump who sucks up to dictators, attracted to them like moths to a candle. If you think different, prove he has the interests of the US ONLY on his mind and has no interest in using the power of POTUS to enrich his own pocketbook.
@sonhouse saidSonhouse, you (and Maruader0 should just settle down a bit. We have 2 more months of this. Actual facts would be nice. Why say that Trump listens and makes decisions on what talking heads say (as if you know that), and on another thread say he doesn't listen to anyone? I am busy trying to get him re-elected and cannot wade through the confusion that you two keep throwing in the threads.
@Earl-of-Trumps
That is who Trump listens to and then makes policy decisions based on what those talking heads say.
All the while ignoring real advice from intel professionals as if talking heads are more reliable than the folks who spend their entire professional career trying to protect America from adversaries.
As opposed to Trump who sucks up to dictators, attract ...[text shortened]... he US ONLY on his mind and has no interest in using the power of POTUS to enrich his own pocketbook.
I think this may be the beginning of the maniacal responses that we are all about to witness from the libs, as you see that Trump is about to be re-elected. I am not saying this to be funny.
@earl-of-trumps saidIf that were the case, they wouldn't need secret police in unmarked vehicles.
They have a constitutional right to protest, not to light the city on fire for gawd's sake
You keep dodging that Trump did this, an authoritarian act.