Originally posted by General PutzerI do admit when I'm wrong - it just ain't here and it ain't now. You made an allegation that paedophilia is at least as common in Muslim circles as outwith Muslim circles based on no evidence.
Now you're just punking out scotshiz......why don't you act like a man and admit you were wrong?
Originally posted by scottishinnzYeah, its the women who are in trouble, can't drive, can't hold down jobs, have to wear space suits in public, thugs can beat them if they dare to have hair showing, yes all in all, a GREAT religion.
Well, I did wonder about putting the Muslim line in, but I thought, well heck, they get so much flak about how repressive their society is, I really should do something to redress that balance, however slightly. They might be tough on crime, or even individuality to some extent, but at least it's keeping these kids safe.
Originally posted by scottishinnzScotshiz, you said I claimed it was RAMPANT, blah blah blah, now you're changing your story and saying I claimed it was as common (that's true).
I do admit when I'm wrong - it just ain't here and it ain't now. You made an allegation that paedophilia is at least as common in Muslim circles as outwith Muslim circles based on no evidence.
And that's why I called you a punk...too childish to admit you were wrong, you then completely ignored what you first stated and are making a totally different claim. How convenient for you.
Look it all up, the posts are there and can't be ignored. You suck.
Originally posted by chancremechanicchancremechanic, just ignore philogarguna he's very upset at the moment. I described the Israeli action as cowardly because I feel it would take a lot more courage and strength to have to work with the Lebanese government to get rid of hezbollah than to basically use their big brother to hide behind while carrying out indescriminate attacks on a Sovereign country without declaring war.
Is that true, Wheeley? How can Israelis be cowards when they were attacked first? They have every right to attack Hezbollah and wipe those caca-roaches off the map.....
I do not deny that Israel has the right, indeed the duty, to defend itself.
Originally posted by sasquatch672I didn't say they weren't. I just asked if it is possible that because you didn't hear of problems then there weren't any.
Arab girls are, this very day - July 21, 2006 - being given to much older men as wives, and by no less an authority than their village imam or whatever he's called. Happens every single day. As do honor killings. I understand stonings are just a slightly rarer occurence.
The bad things are happening.
Originally posted by General PutzerI never said it didn't exist, just that the evidence is that there is far less of a child porn problem in Islamic states than apparently Christian ones. You claimed that wasn't true. You STILL have provided no evidence, just semantic arguments about my choice of words.
Scotshiz, you said I claimed it was RAMPANT, blah blah blah, now you're changing your story and saying I claimed it was as common (that's true).
And that's why I called you a punk...too childish to admit you were wrong, you then completely ignored what you first stated and are making a totally different claim. How convenient for you.
Look it all up, the posts are there and can't be ignored. You suck.
Originally posted by sonhousePersonally, I think all religion is crap - I'm not endorsing it. However, on this count, at least, they seem to be doing better than "christian" countries.
Yeah, its the women who are in trouble, can't drive, can't hold down jobs, have to wear space suits in public, thugs can beat them if they dare to have hair showing, yes all in all, a GREAT religion.
Originally posted by scottishinnzMY GOD....now you have completely changed what we were originally arguing about, you are TOO MUCH.
I never said it didn't exist, just that the evidence is that there is far less of a child porn problem in Islamic states than apparently Christian ones. You claimed that wasn't true. You STILL have provided no evidence, just semantic arguments about my choice of words.
Let's paste your statement that started all this, YOUR WORDS>
Originally posted by scottishinnz
"You are bringin up the assertion that child sexual abuse is rampant in Muslim countries. Currently there is no evidence for that, indeed there is evidence to the contrary. You should back up you assertion."
I MADE NO SUCH STATEMENT, NOR DID I INFER SUCH AT ANY TIME. You have weaseled around making a retraction by changing everything at every turn, and I will waste no more time on you. You are incapable of any logical argument because you cannot follow a simple train of thought and stick to it.
It's like arguing with a five rear old.
Originally posted by General PutzerYeah, whatever man, if you're not willing to stand by your assertions that's your bad.
MY GOD....now you have completely changed what we were originally arguing about, you are TOO MUCH.
Let's paste your statement that started all this, YOUR WORDS>
Originally posted by scottishinnz
"You are bringin up the assertion that child sexual abuse is rampant in Muslim countries. Currently there is no evidence for that, indeed there is e ...[text shortened]... low a simple train of thought and stick to it.
It's like arguing with a five rear old.
Originally posted by scottishinnzso here is a 2005 article that apparently (at least according to fragments posted here) could not find any data more recent than 2001.
Well, here's one from the UK
http://www.irr.org.uk/2005/july/ha000017.html
This one reckons a 1700% increase in race related crimes against muslims;
"Hate crimes against Arabs and Muslims in the United States increased by 1,700% in 2001, according to crime statistics compiled by the FBI. Human Rights Watch has criticized US authorities for not ...[text shortened]... rabs and Muslims. Those anti-terrorism measures included secret detentions and deportations."