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19 Oct 08
19 Oct 08
Originally posted by piper2Nonsense. Our actions have nothing to do with an early demise. Its all about class warfare man!!!
But DsR hasa point.
There is a strong correlation between eating and drinking habits and early death so that it is not surprising that the locations where the inhabitants tend to indulge in unhealthy items of diet (not, as the Socialist myth would have it, because they are cheaper but because they are preferred) have higher death rates than elewhere.
19 Oct 08
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Originally posted by whodeyReally? Sounds like Karl Marx has addled your brains.
Nonsense. Our actions have nothing to do with an early demise. Its all about class warfare man!!!
Edit: Sorry I did not notice your tongue in cheek to start with. Some, like Redmike, really believe just that!
19 Oct 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterGoing to 'soccer' games increases your chances of an early death? Seriously?
If you're on "benefits" and smoke, eat nothing but fish'n'chips, drink beer, and attend soccer games, then you've increased your odds considerably for an early death. What could be more fair than that?
I suppose the way my team are playing occasionally makes me feel sick, but I didn't think it was that serious.
19 Oct 08
Originally posted by RedmikeI watched a soccer game for a week one nite. I almost died of boredom.
Going to 'soccer' games increases your chances of an early death? Seriously?
I suppose the way my team are playing occasionally makes me feel sick, but I didn't think it was that serious.
GRANNY.
19 Oct 08
Originally posted by piper2An Egyption pharaoh ? What a complete lack of imagination. I was an extra-terrestial adventurer who's been to the end of the universe and back (I recommend the steak at Milliways) and regulary saved the galaxy by detonationg medium-sized stars.
Do you believe in reincarnation? If so were you once an Egyptian pharaoh like many of your fellow believers?
You, however, keep returning as a grumpy old man.
20 Oct 08
Originally posted by BartsFunny I do not recall ever having heard of you before, in this or any other existence.I think you must be dreaming or halucinating.
An Egyption pharaoh ? What a complete lack of imagination. I was an extra-terrestial adventurer who's been to the end of the universe and back (I recommend the steak at Milliways) and regulary saved the galaxy by detonationg medium-sized stars.
You, however, keep returning as a grumpy old man.
20 Oct 08
Originally posted by WheelyI don't watch much TV -- it's the opiate of the asses. I did read a study once about the people on "benefits" (Hint: This is a nice euphemism for welfare) in Great Britain and it said they never cooked or prepared their own meals, but when they did, it usually consisted of microwaving frozen dinners or fast food, including fish-n-chips; they drank too much beer or soda, smoked too much, played the lottery quite often as they believed that was the only way to get ahead, and attended soccer games whenever they could. Your British underclass is very similar to our own U.S. underclass, who also have shorter life spans.
I like it when you talk about the culture in other countries because it always shows how your world view is based on the simple stereotypes you get from watching too much TV.
Apart from the fact that fish and chips is probably one of the healthier fast foods you can eat, assuming you let the oil drain well, nobody lives off the stuff in the UK. I suspect ...[text shortened]... on´t care about the royal family, Americans are usually liked, and very few people have butlers.
20 Oct 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterHey, I was defending the fish and chip stereotype, not the lifestyle of many people in the western world.
I don't watch much TV -- it's the opiate of the asses. I did read a study once about the people on "benefits" (Hint: This is a nice euphemism for welfare) in Great Britain and it said they never cooked or prepared their own meals, but when they did, it usually consisted of microwaving frozen dinners or fast food, including fish-n-chips; they dran ...[text shortened]... ish underclass is very similar to our own U.S. underclass, who also have shorter life spans.
20 Oct 08
Originally posted by Bosse de NageI know there's a street in Glasgow (or Edinburgh... or somewhere up there amongst the heathens and drug abusing criminals) where you have detached houses on one side of the road (expensive) and normal housing (rented and cheap) on the other side.
"The Grim Reaper's Road Map: An Atlas of Mortality in Britain shows exactly how people's deaths are affected by where they live, how much money they have, the type of work they do and their lifestyle."
http://www.mg.co.za/article/2008-10-19-atlas-reveals-how-britons-are-likely-to-die
Some of the paragraphs read like a weather report. "A cluster of cervical cancer spreading from Merseyside to Grimsby ... "
And that there's a 15 (or maybe it was 20) year difference in life expectancy.
So, as you can plainly see, I heard it once; a long time ago, and can't really state "I know" in all honesty. \
But it's there.
It's there I tells ya!
20 Oct 08
Many areas of the UK never recovered from the systematic destruction of the manufacturing sector that took place in the 1980's.
The ones that survived converted, like much of the UK, to the financial or service industries.
Unemployment, (or rather well below average levels of employment) low-paid work and lack of investment in infrastructure over the years has led to areas of unequal wealth in the UK much more than these mysterious "cultural" reasons. Whatever those are!
If you are unemployed or earn say £18k per year you're hardly likely to spend £40 a month on gym membership and be sluicing-down the latest expensive health-fad foods!