@vivify saidThey didn't even say that, they said the HEROES act couldn't be used as the basis of Biden's executive order granting partial loan forgiveness. They left open whether other laws could.
SCOTUS *didn't* say he can't pursue loan forgiveness. They said he can't use executive order to do so.
So you're complaining that not only Biden is doing something beneficial for Americans, but he's doing so legally...and that makes him a dictator.
Right.
@averagejoe1 saidhttps://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/07/daca-donald-trump-supreme-court.html
by going around them and doing it anyway is to give the fiinger.
Trump Is Now Openly Defying the Supreme Court
Since you hate dictators so much, I welcome your support in blasting Trump and telling all your friends and family not to vote him.
Welcome to the team.
@no1marauder saidThanks for that correction.
They didn't even say that, they said the HEROES act couldn't be used as the basis of Biden's executive order granting partial loan forgiveness. They left open whether other laws could.
@averagejoe1 saidThose "real law people" agree that Biden is providing student debt relief legally.
@vivify
You fellers are a hoot, discussing the law with your inane legal backgrounds. The real law people in these cases are studying 24/7, surrounded by research and paralegals, associates, partners, the whole deal. If you disagree with them, guess what....you are wrong.
@vivify saidIf it is legal, what he is doing, then I have no problem with it. I'm no Sonhouse, y'all have at it. But you again dig yourself a hole, because you are thus implying that Biden is doing 'things' legally. He swore to protect us.; He is in violation of the constitution. You are in favor of both!?!?!?!!?!?????!!
Those "real law people" agree that Biden is providing student debt relief legally.
I thought we had a rule that we cannot have our cake and eat it to. You may not understand that (cake is the stuff that stuck inside the ovens of poor english people), so I will give you a more simple one.
"You can't have it both ways". To agree with the first example above, it would follow that you must agree that Biden should close the border. I am killing it on the Forum today.
@vivify saidPlease open a thread where paying off the loans of rich college students, while the desperate among us go into despair, is beneficial to Americans. I will be the first with a question.....Why does he do it....for those rich people, some of whom said they would travel and dine out with this windfall. I think Suzy, who will pay those loans, is probably working long hours during December. Yeah, open a thread in defense of Biden. Oh, when SCOTUS ruled, did he respond like a man and say, yes, it was a proper ruling? Or did he say ugly things, together with those lapdog lawyers?
SCOTUS *didn't* say he can't pursue loan forgiveness. They said he can't use executive order to do so.
Biden is doing something beneficial for Americans *legally*...and that makes him a dictator.
Right.
@averagejoe1 saidhttps://studentaid.gov/debt-relief-announcement
paying off the loans of rich college students
Only people making *less* than $125,000 per year are eligible.
Only people who have received Pell Grants are eligible (given to students with exceptional financial needs). So no rich kids.
You're constantly wrong yet you keep posting. No apology, no acknowledgement of false statements....you just keep posting falsely claiming everyone else is wrong.
@AverageJoe1
Too bad you cant open YOUR eyes and see what your god king has planned for the US and the world if he gets in again. Like appointing Steve Miller, you know, the guy who started and convinced Trump to put 5000 children in cages, THAT Steve miller, as the US AG. And Steve bannon as maybe defense sec. And anyone who gets called gets to pledge allegience to TRUMP and TRUMP ONLY, do his bidding no matter what.
He asked the then director of the FBI, James Comey for personal loyalty and Comey replied my loyalty is to the constitution, three days later he is fired. Yep, a real people person your god king.
But you seem to think being a Mafia Don is a good thing, you think that is being strong when in fact it is just being a coward and bully.
Trump isn't even PRETENDING to do policy, he has already vowed to do "retribution' and you seem to see nothing wrong with that. That makes YOU part of the problem, being a card carrying Trump cultist and you claim you don't even LIKE Trump.
Which is utter BULLSHYTE, you WORSHIP Trump, he is your god, your religion which comes out just like zealous religious dudes who push back ever harder when confronted with people who disagrees with him, that makes that person who disses the god lover hate you and make you an enemy.
That is exactly what Trump will do, actually already did, putting Freeman's name out there as a corrupt election worker and all of a sudden dozens of people are at her door with amped mics screaming at her, threatening her, but I guess you figure if your god said she was corrupt, then she for sure is corrupt and deserves everything she gets.
Then there was Col Vindman who dared to bring out the phone call to Zelinski, find dirt on my political opponent Biden or you can forget getting your half bil in military aid. A week later Vindman is fired for doing his job. And you think he will be a GREAT POTUS.
You don't even think he will follow through with what he already said but you can bet your ass he will do EXACTLY what he says he will do, like invoke the insurrection act on day one of his presidency, call out our military to attack protesters. I assume you find nothing wrong with ANY of that since he IS and always will be your god king.
@vivify saidIf it was an insurrection why didn't they bring guns?
That's what you call a "dictator"? Getting citizens out of debt? Is this the best you can come up with?
Trump incited insurrection to overturn an election and tried to ban an entire religious group from entering the U.S.
Yet student loan forgiveness makes Biden a "dictator".
Is it your assertion that this was the most poorly planned insurrection in world history?
@vivify saidStudying this stuff, are you? Creepy.
https://studentaid.gov/debt-relief-announcement
Only people making *less* than $125,000 per year are eligible.
Only people who have received Pell Grants are eligible (given to students with exceptional financial needs). So no rich kids.
You're constantly wrong yet you keep posting. No apology, no acknowledgement of false statements....you just keep posting falsely claiming everyone else is wrong.
You are right, I guess I am fixated on the students who say they will use the money to dine out and to travel. Doesn't sound like students who are strapped in any way.
You are right, but you never have told us 'why' this is being done. Or why he picked college grads instead of my friend's niece, widowed, can't get by, living on food stamps, which y'all know all about. Suzianne helps pay for the college debt.
So, tell us, why is this happening, since you hav researched so much.
My maid asked a lib sitting next to her in a restaurant to pay her dinner bill, and the lib told her to kissass. Very confusing, you libs.
@metal-brain saidGood point. Their only weapons were the sticks on their stupid signs. One cannot beat someone over the head when the stick has a big poster stapled to it, the one that tells everyone what the sign-carrier thinks about something
If it was an insurrection why didn't they bring guns?
Is it your assertion that this was the most poorly planned insurrection in world history?
@sonhouse saidYou need to write in a more believable fashion, ...you say 'the phone call to Zelenski' as if it was totally improper. I am of the camp that says it was a president calling a president, and no one was hurt by it. So since you pepper your post with misinformation, the rest of your post, and there is a 'Whole Lot of Rest', is taken with a grain of salt.
@AverageJoe1
Too bad you cant open YOUR eyes and see what your god king has planned for the US and the world if he gets in again. Like appointing Steve Miller, you know, the guy who started and convinced Trump to put 5000 children in cages, THAT Steve miller, as the US AG. And Steve bannon as maybe defense sec. And anyone who gets called gets to pledge allegience to TRUMP a ...[text shortened]... ters. I assume you find nothing wrong with ANY of that since he IS and always will be your god king.
Just being helpful.
Maybe several different one-issue posts? I cant drink that much coffee.
You are like the NY Times...today I am looking at the front page today and no mention of the Hunter Biden crimes? You would not like me if I were disengeuous.
@averagejoe1 saidHaving an informed opinion is "creepy" to you?
Studying this stuff, are you? Creepy.
Would you prefer political discourse rife with ignorance?