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@mott-the-hoople said
>btw were more per years in office than both Bush and Obama and Clinton and the other Bush.<

biden wasnt mentioned...
biden is literally in the thread title

wtf are you doing man, are you hard trolling? am I simply wasting my time again with you?

just come up and say wtf you're talking about.

if you have an issue with how I said Trump had more executive orders than the previous presidents, open your eyes and realize i said "per year in office". Obama and bush

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@zahlanzi said
biden is literally in the thread title

wtf are you doing man, are you hard trolling? am I simply wasting my time again with you?

just come up and say wtf you're talking about.

if you have an issue with how I said Trump had more executive orders than the previous presidents, open your eyes and realize i said "per year in office". Obama and bush
I was replying to YOU…and I quoted YOU.

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Cruzan versus Director of Missouri Department of Health in 1990, specifically stated that patients have a right to refuse any treatment. You cannot force treatment on people. Well, this is forced treatment. This is coerced treatment.

And Doe v. Rumsfeld proved in 2004 that investigational drugs could not be forced upon people unless there is a presidential waiver or informed consent. Well, here's the kicker on presidential waiver, which is what they're going to go to.

Anybody who takes an oath of office — the president of the United States, senators, representatives to Congress, governors, police officers, judges, lawyers, administrative officials — cannot violate the U.S. Constitution. If they do, they've committed treason, by definition.

In the U.S. Constitution, it states that Treaty Law and the Constitution and statutes are the supreme law of the land. The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights specifically states that you cannot force people to take a drug; that they have to have informed consent, and that animal research has to have been done beforehand to prove it's safe.

So, if a president, including this one, issues an order that this is a mandate and is required, then he is violating the U.S. Constitution by violating Treaty and therefore has committed treason.

It's not only an impeachable offense, it is punishable by death because that's [the punishment for] treason. You can't force U.S. citizens to undergo forced experimentation.

And you can't get around that by doing something cute like having the FDA say, ‘Whoa, well, we've now approved it, OK?’ Because the Supreme Court has already ruled that you cannot force people to take a treatment and the only party that can change that is the Supreme Court.”

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@AverageJoe1
What REALLY ticks me off is the ASSUMPTION that it was not opinion but statements of fact.
I don't think you know the difference.

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
What REALLY ticks me off is the ASSUMPTION that it was not opinion but statements of fact.
I don't think you know the difference.
WHAT was not an opinion but statements of fact!?!??!??!?!?!?!?
WHAT are you talking about? Were you writing me??
I really don't care if you don't take a moment to hit 'quote' when you respond, since even if we knew your catalyst, your comment would make still have the same not-impact. We really don't need to know what you are saying anyway, seriously. Except, we really perk up and make notes when it is about the un-indicted Trump. Do you realize he will run in 2024. Get ahead, Sonhouse, prepare your monitors!!
I truly did not understand your post,,,,,,but hey,,,,its OK....

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It will probably go to the supreme court if they keep trying to push mandates on us. They should give up like the UK did. Their viral vector vaccine is a huge failure and I think it became hard to deny since most infections are among the vaccinated there.

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@mott-the-hoople said
when did Trump define this ? you see that is the topic of the thread, biden met his own definition. you folks never address the issue.
trump even said that he had total authority to do whatever he wanted to do.

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@metal-brain said
It will probably go to the supreme court if they keep trying to push mandates on us. They should give up like the UK did. Their viral vector vaccine is a huge failure and I think it became hard to deny since most infections are among the vaccinated there.
Nearly all hospital cases are non-vaccinated people.

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@shavixmir said
Nearly all hospital cases are non-vaccinated people.
Nope.

https://www.technocracy.news/60-of-those-older-than-50-who-die-from-covid-are-double-vaxxed/

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@metal-brain said
Cruzan versus Director of Missouri Department of Health in 1990, specifically stated that patients have a right to refuse any treatment. You cannot force treatment on people. Well, this is forced treatment. This is coerced treatment.

And Doe v. Rumsfeld proved in 2004 that investigational drugs could not be forced upon people unless there is a presidential waiver ...[text shortened]... nnot force people to take a treatment and the only party that can change that is the Supreme Court.”
If you can force a free citizen to go through 9 months of gestation, give birth and become a mother to a child she never wanted or planned for then I’m pretty sure you can mandate a vaccination on public health grounds.

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@metal-brain said
Nope.

https://www.technocracy.news/60-of-those-older-than-50-who-die-from-covid-are-double-vaxxed/
That might be because of the high % of those over 50 who are double vaxxed disingenuous dullard. Which means 40% of covid deaths in the over 50 age group come from the remaining minority of non vaxxed.
P.s that’s if figures from a web site calling itself ‘technocracy’ can be taken with any degree of seriousness.

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@shavixmir said
Nearly all hospital cases are non-vaccinated people.
Exactly. Several posters here are willing to give up our major asset, which is Freedom, to solve the problems that these non-vaxers have created for themselves.
Not our problem. Yeah, our tax and medicare, etc, have to pay for it , but I am glad to pay it, rather than allow Biden to take away our freedom to choose.
This is a great opportunity for the non-choosers on the Forum to understand what it is to have a life of having choices. Its cool.

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@kevcvs57 said
If you can force a free citizen to go through 9 months of gestation, give birth and become a mother to a child she never wanted or planned for then I’m pretty sure you can mandate a vaccination on public health grounds.
This is why I find libs entertaining....their interpretations facts in a way that suits their narratives. Kev is saying the woman is forced to do something. He incorrectly says she never wanted the baby that she spent some time and effort to create in her womb. If I walk across a busy street and get hit, I can hardly say that I did not want to get hit.
That is it in a nutshell, Kev. So I need say nothing else, you predicate your opinion on a misunderstanding of her condition, so,, your premise fails right out of the chute.

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@shavixmir said
trump even said that he had total authority to do whatever he wanted to do.
should be easy for you to provide the quote then…I will wait

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@shavixmir said
trump even said that he had total authority to do whatever he wanted to do.
You take this out of context. He certainly never, like Biden, said he knows he does not have the power but will do it anyway.
I know,,,,send a link. My answer? google it.

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