The body of a 41-year old man who was deported to Iraq and died was returned to the U.S. on Friday, according to his family and a local congressman.
Jimmy Aldaoud had lived nearly all of his life in the Detroit area, where he will be buried next week alongside his mother. He died on Aug. 6 from health problems in Baghdad, where he was sent in June, but where he knew no one, didn't speak the language, and didn't have access to proper care for his diabetes or schizophrenia.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/body-sick-man-deported-iraq-returned-home-us/story?id=65282165
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Thoughts on the merits of deporting people who lived practically all their lives in the United States, do not speak the local language of the area they are being deported to, and will certainly die shortly after arrival?
30 Aug 19
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do you feel the same way about nazi era stalag guards who are sent back to europe when they are 80 or 90 years of age and have lived here a half century ?
30 Aug 19
@mister-moggy saidNo, I don't... do you have any thoughts on the topic at hand?
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do you feel the same way about nazi era stalag guards who are sent back to europe when they are 80 or 90 years of age and have lived here a half century ?
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@kazetnagorra saidThere are no merits.
[quote]The body of a 41-year old man who was deported to Iraq and died was returned to the U.S. on Friday, according to his family and a local congressman.
Jimmy Aldaoud had lived nearly all of his life in the Detroit area, where he will be buried next week alongside his mother. He died on Aug. 6 from health problems in Baghdad, where he was sent in June, but where he ...[text shortened]... local language of the area they are being deported to, and will certainly die shortly after arrival?
@mister-moggy saidThey are being sent back to face trial, it’s an extradition so not the same thing at all, or are you trying to draw a comparison with an innocent migrant suffering from diabetes with a death camp guard?
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do you feel the same way about nazi era stalag guards who are sent back to europe when they are 80 or 90 years of age and have lived here a half century ?
@kazetnagorra saidThere are no merits to such a plan. It is state-sanctioned murder.
[quote]The body of a 41-year old man who was deported to Iraq and died was returned to the U.S. on Friday, according to his family and a local congressman.
Jimmy Aldaoud had lived nearly all of his life in the Detroit area, where he will be buried next week alongside his mother. He died on Aug. 6 from health problems in Baghdad, where he was sent in June, but where he ...[text shortened]... local language of the area they are being deported to, and will certainly die shortly after arrival?
@mister-moggy saidSo you have a soft spot for Nazis, do you?
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do you feel the same way about nazi era stalag guards who are sent back to europe when they are 80 or 90 years of age and have lived here a half century ?
I can see why you support Trump, then.
31 Aug 19
@kazetnagorra saidThey were deported because of their previous criminal records.
[quote]The body of a 41-year old man who was deported to Iraq and died was returned to the U.S. on Friday, according to his family and a local congressman.
Jimmy Aldaoud had lived nearly all of his life in the Detroit area, where he will be buried next week alongside his mother. He died on Aug. 6 from health problems in Baghdad, where he was sent in June, but where he ...[text shortened]... local language of the area they are being deported to, and will certainly die shortly after arrival?
I could see how it would be desirable to come up with a clause that non-violent misdemeanors would not merit deportation, but, otherwise, it is what is right. Why wouldn't it be?
It also sounds like his crimes were relatively serious:
Aldaoud faced serious health problems, Bajoka said. In addition to diabetes, he was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and struggled to live a normal life. His run-ins with the law were primarily due to his mental illness, said Bajoka, who never represented Aldaoud in court. The most serious came in 2012 when Aldaoud, described as homeless in local media reports, broke into a garage and stole power tools. He served 17 months on that home invasion conviction, Politico reported, and had a separate conviction for disorderly conduct.
https://wikiglobals.com/jimmy-aldaoud-biography-wiki-age/
His family had clearly failed him and I guess, in some other sense, we could argue that his community had also failed him.
So, I guess the alternative could have been that we have him forever on the streets of America, or that we lock him in a mental health facility for another 30+ years.
But we did have grounds to deport him, so we did.
@philokalia saidWow, he stole power tools. That sounds like an offense deserving of death.
They were deported because of their previous criminal records.
I could see how it would be desirable to come up with a clause that non-violent misdemeanors would not merit deportation, but, otherwise, it is what is right. Why wouldn't it be?
It also sounds like his crimes were relatively serious:
[quote]Aldaoud faced serious health problems, Bajoka said. In add ...[text shortened]... mental health facility for another 30+ years.
But we did have grounds to deport him, so we did.
31 Aug 19
@kazetnagorra saidBreaking and entering and stealing power tools sounds like an offense worthy of deportation.
Wow, he stole power tools. That sounds like an offense deserving of death.
31 Aug 19
@philokalia saidWhich was a death sentence in this case.
Breaking and entering and stealing power tools sounds like an offense worthy of deportation.
@philokalia saidI read all of your posts like this; in the voice of 15 year old bover-booted skinhead.
I love reading posts like this is an obnoxious, high voice.
It makes them properly funny.