03 Aug 04
Originally posted by RedmikeI wonder if those sovereign nations would be speaking German or Japanese if it were not for the U.S. Army and The U.S.Navy. P.S. Sorry I could not resist sayint that.
Because the US has no right to.
Believe it or not, other countries in the world are actually sovereign nations. This means that they get to make their own laws, regardless of what the US might think of these laws. They are allowed to have their own cultures, customs and religions.
I don't approve of bull-fighting, but I don't approve of the electric c ...[text shortened]... any other country have the right to 'crack down on these violent and abusive acts' in the US?
03 Aug 04
Originally posted by gambit3Gambit,
I wonder if those sovereign nations would be speaking German or Japanese if it were not for the U.S. Army and The U.S.Navy. P.S. Sorry I could not resist sayint that.
You are ok. Redmike and several others here on this site, unfortunately, at one point of their sad lives, devoted several hours of thought to being commies.
Unfortunately, that was their usable quota and they are now stuck in that notion. They are thus stuck forever.
Cut them a little slack. They do the best they can. Poor things.
Mike
04 Aug 04
Originally posted by StarValleyWyThe Animal Welfare Act and the Humane Methods of Slaughter Act.
Remorah,
This is a stretch. National politics very seldom affects how people view animals. Name a single "law" that is not "local" to the state or community that affects animals.
BTW, it's not the case that everyone who disagrees with you is automatically a "commie".
04 Aug 04
Originally posted by gambit3No, I don't think they would. Not least because Spain, the main centre of bull-fighting, was neutral in WW2.
I wonder if those sovereign nations would be speaking German or Japanese if it were not for the U.S. Army and The U.S.Navy. P.S. Sorry I could not resist sayint that.
But then the US didn't save anyone else from the Nazis either. Sure, you're forces helped us liberate Europe, but before that you'd sat on your cowardly non-interventionist arses until you were actually attacked yourselves.
The Nazis were halted in Europe by Britain and by the Red Army. Then the US got involved.
Of course, you've made up for it since - late for WW1, late for WW2, but early for every war since.
04 Aug 04
Originally posted by gambit3I disagree with this. Some dogs are bred to be vicious killers. It's in their nature, these were seen as desirable traits to breeders.
There are no bad dogs, just bad dog owners. I hope you are wrong about the missing animals. The thought of my dog being killed to train a fighting dog make me reach for a box of ammunition .
Training them out of it is nigh on impossible.
04 Aug 04
Originally posted by RedmikeYou need to study your history. The U.S. beat the Germans. The U.S. is the only one to fight Japan. If we had stayed out of Europe you could be speaking Russian today. We fought two theater operations in WW2. You people in Europe started two big wars in the last hundred years that caused us a lot of trouble.
No, I don't think they would. Not least because Spain, the main centre of bull-fighting, was neutral in WW2.
But then the US didn't save anyone else from the Nazis either. Sure, you're forces helped us liberate Europe, but before that you'd sat on your cowardly non-interventionist arses until you were actually attacked yourselves.
The Nazis were halted ...[text shortened]... ourse, you've made up for it since - late for WW1, late for WW2, but early for every war since.
04 Aug 04
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Originally posted by gambit3I don't disagree that the US played a major part in defeating the Nazis. That's not the same as saying that Spain, who were neutral, was somehow 'saved' by the US. The Nazis were fought to a standstill by Britain, the Red Army and various resistance groups. Then the US got involved.
You need to study your history. The U.S. beat the Germans. The U.S. is the only one to fight Japan. If we had stayed out of Europe you could be speaking Russian today. We fought two theater operations in WW2. You people in Europe started tw ...[text shortened]... g wars in the last hundred years that caused us a lot of trouble.
In terms of the war against Japan, Britain, Australia, New Zealand, India, USSR and many other countries fought against Japan. To say only the US did is nonsense. In fact, my uncle fought the Japanese in WW2, and was a casualty of US 'friendly fire'.
You need to make up your mind what language we'd be speaking without the 'protection' of the US - German or Russian.
04 Aug 04
How many times have you heard the remark 'He's great with kids and wouldn't harm anyone' from the owner of dogs such as Pit Bulls? And how many children have been attacked by these same dogs? The main problem as I see it is that these type of dogs attract a certain sort of owner in general. These are 'macho' types, with small brains, who are looking for a dog that is an extension of their aggressive nature and outlook. Am I wrong on this point? In my opinion there is no justification for these dogs to be owned as 'pets'.
On a different point - Why is it that 'blood sports' enjoyed by the 'lower classes' have been banned (dog fighting, cock fighting, badger baiting etc), whilst those enjoyed by the 'upper classes' (fox hunting, pheasant shooting (where's the skill in that?!), stag hunting etc.) have not?
04 Aug 04
Originally posted by ianpickeringVery good comments.
How many times have you heard the remark 'He's great with kids and wouldn't harm anyone' from the owner of dogs such as Pit Bulls? And how many children have been attacked by these same dogs? The main problem as I see it is that these type of dogs attract a certain sort of owner in general. These are 'macho' types, with small brains, who are looki ...[text shortened]... ' (fox hunting, pheasant shooting (where's the skill in that?!), stag hunting etc.) have not?
I can't tell you the number of times it is on the news here where a small child has approached a dog in a nearby yard and been mauled or killed. Often the child is playing in his own yard when this occurs. Dogs see children as omega members of the pack: the lowest level in the pack. They attack to prove their superiority to the child. They often see the child's approach as an attack.
04 Aug 04
Originally posted by ianpickeringFox hunting is illegal in Scotland.
On a different point - Why is it that 'blood sports' enjoyed by the 'lower classes' have been banned (dog fighting, cock fighting, badger baiting etc), whilst those enjoyed by the 'upper classes' (fox hunting, pheasant shooting (where's the skill in that?!), stag hunting etc.) have not?
05 Aug 04
Originally posted by VargNot that I'm aware of, but I live in a city, so I'm unlikely to see them anyway. As I understand it, they still chase bits of rag around the countryside with dogs etc.
But does it still continue?
Because badger baiting still happens in England.
I'd imagine it would be difficult to police things if they 'accidentally' found a fox and chased it.
There's certainly be no prosecutions since the ban was introduced, and the hunt sab people are quiet.
05 Aug 04
Originally posted by slimjimYou are right, James. Not all pit bulls are viscious. They are trained to be so. They can be excellent pets. It is when they are used for this horrible blood sport that thye become killers.
As an owner of a pit-bull who by way rides in my truck when I'm on the road, I take offense to be classified as one of those idiots who fight their dogs. Granted my dog has gotten into fights with other dogs because the lame brain owner of the other dog couldn't control his animal. My dog rides with me and is a deterrent to someone breaking in my truck and ...[text shortened]... ooka t the show "The little Rascals" that was a pit-bull with the ring painted around his eye.