03 Sep 23
@earl-of-trumps saidIs there a point at which too many people are imprisoned in your view?!
For one, build more prisons. Because for a while, California will need them.
Next, start *enforcing* the laws. And that includes the state police helping with the organized crime/thefts.
It will take a lot to get crime back to a decent level, kits if time
How are we going to pay for these prisons?
03 Sep 23
@zahlanzi saidNo. We imprison way too many people. The legal system and economic system are bending over backwards to make the insanely rich even richer and poor people are turning to crime more and more because of this.
you're being sarcastic, right?
We cannot afford to imprison so many people and it is immoral as well.
03 Sep 23
@mott-the-hoople saidIncrease taxes on the rich and use the money for government jobs so that the masses aren't so desperate.
you fail to mention a remedy
03 Sep 23
@eqtoptrader said
Yes, how many people are in jail for marijuana use? That is like locking up those who drink(which does more harm to society than marijuana use).
https://www.thecannabist.co/2018/02/01/california-marijuana-convictions-dropped-san-diego/98082/
Across California, cities releasing marijuana prisoners and dropping convictions
03 Sep 23
@vivify saidIt's not about time it's about money. "Solving the homelessness problem" costs money. Releasing prisoners saves money.
This doesn't make any sense. There are so many other problems Cali Dems can focus on like finding solutions to the homelessness problem or insane housing costs, yet this is what they waste their time doing.
I'm all for reduced sentences for certain crimes like drug use. But murder? There's so much more Dems should be doing than crap like this.
03 Sep 23
@shavixmir saidThere isn't enough funding available to keep the prisons running properly or even improperly given the enormous number of people we're locking up.
What’s the reasoning behind it?
@athousandyoung saidUnless those prisoners can't find housing.
It's not about time it's about money. "Solving the homelessness problem" costs money. Releasing prisoners saves money.
03 Sep 23
@vivify saidWhatever abstract social costs you're referring to are certainly less expensive than the cost of "housing" a prisoner in inhumane conditions in constant close proximity to other criminals. Not only is there a large cost written formally on the California budget associated with housing a prisoner, but there are lots of abstract social costs that the prisoner is still inflicting while in prison.
Unless those prisoners can't find housing.
Perhaps if you elaborated on your apparent non sequitur it might help. I had to really think in order to try to make your post make some sort of sense in context.
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03 Sep 23
@athousandyoung saidwhats it worth to not be murdered?
It's not about time it's about money. "Solving the homelessness problem" costs money. Releasing prisoners saves money.
03 Sep 23
@mott-the-hoople saidThat is not on the California government budget and I don't think it's possible for the government to prevent that in a society where every adult has access to guns. Our Second Amendment implies that every adult should have the ability to murder any other person at any time. It's not the government's job to control that.
whats it worth to not be murdered?
03 Sep 23
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@athousandyoung saidHow likely do you think it is for an ex-con in California to be able to obtain housing in a state with one of the highest rents in the country?
Whatever abstract social costs you're referring to are certainly less expensive than the cost of "housing" a prisoner in inhumane conditions in constant close proximity to other criminals. Not only is there a large cost written formally on the California budget associated with housing a prisoner, but there are lots of abstract social costs that the prisoner is still i ...[text shortened]... t help. I had to really think in order to try to make your post make some sort of sense in context.
Let an ex-con out early...then what? What does that ex-con have to go back to, especially if they've been locked up for at least 3 decades? Chances are quite high that you're letting out an elderly person into a life of homelessness, which arguably is worse for an old person than living in prison.
All I'm saying is that there are much more important issues to think about than letting convicted murderers go free.
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03 Sep 23
@athousandyoung saiddamn what an idiot…there are many ways to murder someone.
That is not on the California government budget and I don't think it's possible for the government to prevent that in a society where every adult has access to guns. Our Second Amendment implies that every adult should have the ability to murder any other person at any time. It's not the government's job to control that.
it is exactly the job of the govt to provide a civilized society.
Remember you libs coming down on sheriff arpao, and guilianni? they had crime under control, you libs went to bat for the criminals.
A murderer should be done away with in the same manner as the crime they committed….but noooo, you libs want a slap on the wrist, and now want to turn them loose on society to kill again.
03 Sep 23
@vivify saidNo, prison is not better than homelessness. For anybody. Disease and violence are rampant in prison. It is not a place that will protect the elderly from the dangers of homelessness.
How likely do you think it is for an ex-con in California to be able to obtain housing in a state with one of the highest rents in the country?
Let an ex-con out early...then what? What does that ex-con have to go back to, especially if they've been locked up for at least 3 decades? Chances are quite high that you're letting out an elderly person into a life of homeless ...[text shortened]... s that there are much more important issues to think about than letting convicted murderers go free.
And it costs a lot of money.
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@vivify said“All I'm saying is that there are much more important issues to think about than letting convicted murderers go free.”
How likely do you think it is for an ex-con in California to be able to obtain housing in a state with one of the highest rents in the country?
Let an ex-con out early...then what? What does that ex-con have to go back to, especially if they've been locked up for at least 3 decades? Chances are quite high that you're letting out an elderly person into a life of homeless ...[text shortened]... s that there are much more important issues to think about than letting convicted murderers go free.
damn you people are stupid…trust me, if one of them is about to kill you I bet it becomes a very important issue with you.