Can Insurrection Be Justified?

Jan 6th's infamy is rooted in right-wingers siding in a lie about a stolen election.

A lie that has no evidence, that's been debunked, dismissed by over 60 courts including a conservative SCOTUS. An obvious lie that cost Fox News almost $1 Billion in a law suit. Lies like from Trump lawyer Sidney Powell who admitted in court "no reasonable person" should believe. A lie that even Trump's own Attorney General refuted.

However....

What if a stolen election actually happens? Imagine a president comes to power and there's actually legitimate evidence of a stolen election. If a president plotted to steal an election and there's evidence the courts can't ignore. What if evidence for a stolen was the exact opposite of what lead to Jan 6th?

Would insurrection in that case be justified? If evidence of a stolen election was indisputable but the new illegitimate president took power anyway, would rioting at capitol buildings still be wrong?

Litigation in America is a slow process. If real and significant election fraud were discovered a wrongly elected president could serve an entire term prior to facing any consequence, all the while using the powers of the presidency to shield himself from repercussions. If that president has enough party members in Congress, impeachment is also not an option.

If Jan 6th were for legitimate reasons would insurrection still be wrong?

@vivify said
Jan 6th's infamy is rooted in right-wingers siding in a lie about a stolen election.

A lie that has no evidence, that's been debunked, dismissed by over 60 courts including a conservative SCOTUS. An obvious lie that cost Fox News almost $1 Billion in a law suit. Lies like from Trump lawyer Sidney Powell who admitted in court "no reasonable person" should believe. A lie ...[text shortened]... s also not an option.

If Jan 6th were for legitimate reasons would insurrection still be wrong?

@averagejoe1 said
Not in any case would it be justified, at least not in the USA. We have a process to unseat a government, etc. Wasted post. Your time woujld be better spent telling us where Hunter got all that money and why. Query....Why won't he? Is he hiding something? Please try to write a response without mentioning President Trump.

@wajoma said
It wasn't a serious post, it was all about trying to call the Jan 6th meandering an insurrection.

@averagejoe1 said
Not in any case would it be justified, at least not in the USA. We have a process to unseat a government, etc.

@vivify said
Jan 6th was an insurrection. That's not debatable.

@wajoma said
No one has been able to define how an insurrection was supposed to proceed, how, who, what, when. No one has been able to provide any plan of an insurrection, every time someone tries to define what a planned insurrection would look like it becomes more preposterous because at the same time they're creating this unbelievable scenario they're trying to shoehorn it into what did happen and that's not possible.

I should have caught that first edit before you changed it.

@vivify said
Jan 6th was an insurrection. That's not debatable.

@averagejoe1 said
I will call you to the mat, one more time..............
If it was an insurrection, why will not the prosecutor find this to be the case?
An easy question. You will not answer. Will give libs, once again, a bad name.

Edit: Answer it, and thus spare us a lot of time in typing ad nauseum

@averagejoe1 said
I will call you to the mat, one more time..............
If it was an insurrection, why will not the prosecutor find this to be the case?
An easy question. You will not answer. Will give libs, once again, a bad name.

Edit: Answer it, and thus spare us a lot of time in typing ad nauseum

@wajoma said
No one has been able to define how an insurrection was supposed to proceed, how, who, what, when. No one has been able to provide any plan of an insurrection, every time someone tries to define what a planned insurrection would look like it becomes more preposterous because at the same time they're creating this unbelievable scenario they're trying to shoehorn it into what did happen and that's not possible.

I should have caught that first edit before you changed it.

@no1marauder said
The charges he is facing have a potentially longer prison sentence.

Why bother charging him with the lesser crime?

@averagejoe1 said
So do you and Vivify pull this strategy out of thin air? Is this part of their plan, or are you just waltzing along?

@vivify said
Jan 6th was an insurrection. That's not debatable.

@no1marauder said
Actually we're doing what you asked i.e. trying to explain to you what the prosecutor's reasoning was.

If you don't like the answer, don't ask the question.