03 Sep 20
@eladar saidSo, this is Trump’s major accomplishment, is it? He hasn’t triggered the apocalypse. Am I supposed to be grateful, or what?
Trum .has been in office how long? No nuclear war.
Anyone concerned about Trump starting a nuclear war is either pretty stupid, or simply does not pay attention to the real world.
23 Sep 20
Posting any thread on here that questions the safety of vaccines will result in censorship. This does not violate any stated guidelines so the moderator(s) obviously make up the criteria for unacceptable posts as they go along.
It isn't as if certain vaccines have not been proven to be unsafe, some have. A glaring example is the polio vaccine that caused most polio cases in Africa. This link is from the AP, a well respected news site.
https://apnews.com/7d8b0e32efd0480fbd12acf27729f6a5
23 Sep 20
@metal-brain saidAs you probably have read your source we are talking about those numbers:
Posting any thread on here that questions the safety of vaccines will result in censorship. This does not violate any stated guidelines so the moderator(s) obviously make up the criteria for unacceptable posts as they go along.
It isn't as if certain vaccines have not been proven to be unsafe, some have. A glaring example is the polio vaccine that caused most polio ca ...[text shortened]... k is from the AP, a well respected news site.
https://apnews.com/7d8b0e32efd0480fbd12acf27729f6a5
* we Need 95% immuniazation to eradicate Polio and it should be done since Polio is highly infective and has caused a lot of harm in centuries past
* 9 cases of vaccine-induced Polio have been found over four countries.
* If the "good and expensive" Polio vaccine is used then there are no publiched Polio infections
Without trying to be cynic I conclude:
* If we eradicate Polio as we did other diseaseswe do something good for mankind.
* If we can only afford the "cheap and no so good" vaccine we will have some pople being infected, but there won't be a spread since their Peers are immunized.
* If you really care About those Children, please make Money available to use the "good and expensive" vaccine for those Children. Thank you.
23 Sep 20
@ponderable saidRead the article.
As you probably have read your source we are talking about those numbers:
* we Need 95% immuniazation to eradicate Polio and it should be done since Polio is highly infective and has caused a lot of harm in centuries past
* 9 cases of vaccine-induced Polio have been found over four countries.
* If the "good and expensive" Polio vaccine is used then there are no pub ...[text shortened]... , please make Money available to use the "good and expensive" vaccine for those Children. Thank you.
Global health numbers show there are now more children being paralyzed by viruses originating in vaccines than in the wild.
Funny how these vaccines are tested in 3rd world countries and not here.
@metal-brain saidEvidently I did and posted some relevant numbers. How About you?
Read the article.
Global health numbers show there are now more children being paralyzed by viruses originating in vaccines than in the wild.
Funny how these vaccines are tested in 3rd world countries and not here.
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@metal-brain saidComplete bunk!
Read the article.
Global health numbers show there are now more children being paralyzed by viruses originating in vaccines than in the wild.
Funny how these vaccines are tested in 3rd world countries and not here.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
You vomit rightist propaganda because you haven't taken the time to critically digest the hideous sources of your reading.
Peer-reviewed scientific journals recommended.
23 Sep 20
@ponderable saidMore children were being paralyzed by viruses originating in vaccines than in the wild. More than 50%. There is your number.
Evidently I did and posted some relevant numbers. How About you?
@wolfe63 saidThe CDC admitted it. You are lying!
Complete bunk!
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
You vomit rightist propaganda because you haven't taken the time to critically digest the hideous sources of your reading.
Peer-reviewed scientific journals recommended.
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/16/780068006/how-the-oral-polio-vaccine-can-cause-polio
23 Sep 20
@metal-brain saidSo you understand that after immunization a lot of Children less than without contact Polio, thus the very small number of vaccine-induced Polio cases become relevant in Terms of relative infections.
More children were being paralyzed by viruses originating in vaccines than in the wild. More than 50%. There is your number.
How many Polio cases wordlwide before vaccination? (Hint: if it were in the single Digits then nobody would have develloped a vaccine, it was in the tens of thousands with a severe Variation)
How many today? (even in the hot spost we are in the single Digits as of your own source)
Any conclusion?
23 Sep 20
@metal-brain saidVery interesting point.
Read the article.
Global health numbers show there are now more children being paralyzed by viruses originating in vaccines than in the wild.
Funny how these vaccines are tested in 3rd world countries and not here.
I had once read that the US has some testing laboratory in Puerto Rico because of some hitch
in the law that allows them to do certain testing there, whereas they could not in one of the 50 states.
Where there's a sneaky-snake, there's a way.
23 Sep 20
@ponderable saidSo you are condoning using Africans and other third world nation's people as guinea pigs? Real ethical. I suppose you support Planned Parenthood population control of Negros too.
So you understand that after immunization a lot of Children less than without contact Polio, thus the very small number of vaccine-induced Polio cases become relevant in Terms of relative infections.
How many Polio cases wordlwide before vaccination? (Hint: if it were in the single Digits then nobody would have develloped a vaccine, it was in the tens of thousands with ...[text shortened]... today? (even in the hot spost we are in the single Digits as of your own source)
Any conclusion?
24 Sep 20
@metal-brain saidThat is, as you probaly well Aware not waht I wrote.
So you are condoning using Africans and other third world nation's people as guinea pigs? Real ethical. I suppose you support Planned Parenthood population control of Negros too.
Intentional misrepresentation is called "lying" if you Need a simple word.
I condone the use of a less than Optimum solution to no solution at all.
I condone to have single Digit numbers of victims to tens of thousands.
I give Money to help the poor, but I rather help thousands a bit than giving up since I can't Level everybody to the satndards of my Society.
24 Sep 20
@ponderable saidThe SARS2 vaccine should be tested on politicians first, if they survive the vaccine is safe. If they don't the country is safe.
That is, as you probaly well Aware not waht I wrote.
Intentional misrepresentation is called "lying" if you Need a simple word.
I condone the use of a less than Optimum solution to no solution at all.
I condone to have single Digit numbers of victims to tens of thousands.
I give Money to help the poor, but I rather help thousands a bit than giving up since I can't Level everybody to the satndards of my Society.
I am fine with politicians getting the vaccine first if it is the very same vaccine the general population is getting later. You seem to want to test them on Negroes though. You must be a racist.
24 Sep 20
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@earl-of-trumps saidIt seems to be a way to avoid the bad PR that comes from their vaccine killing people. It is in a different country and officials are easier to buy off to sweep it under the rug.
Very interesting point.
I had once read that the US has some testing laboratory in Puerto Rico because of some hitch
in the law that allows them to do certain testing there, whereas they could not in one of the 50 states.
Where there's a sneaky-snake, there's a way.
Here is an excerpt from the link below:
"The fact that Merck, which makes Gardasil, and GlaxoSmithKline, maker of Cervarix, donated almost $6 million worth of their vaccines to the PATH trial “was not philanthropy,” asserts Chandra M. Gulhati, editor of the Monthly Index of Medical Specialities, an influential journal in India. “It is shocking to see how an American organization used surreptitious methods to establish itself in India,” he charges. “This is an obvious case where Indians were being used as guinea pigs,” contends Samiran Nundy, a gastrointestinal expert at the Sir Ganga Ram Hospital in New Delhi and editor emeritus of the National Medical Journal of India."
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/09/indian-parliament-comes-down-hard-cervical-cancer-trial
Merck has a history of hiding known dangers of it's products like Vioxx. The fact the Bill Gates chose to partner with such a shady pharma company is messed up. I thought he was too smart to do something so stupid, but maybe he just doesn't care. That would make more sense.