28 Jan 08
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Originally posted by badmoonThat's what the Obama team is hammering on these days. Obama is the unifying leader America needs.
I did donate to the Obama campaign. I have an Obama button on my jacket and have the bumper sticker on my pickup.
The Demos have very much the same approach but he'd be a unifying leader rather than the polarizing Billary.
The Hillary team will have a hard nut to crack to promote her as unifying ......
28 Jan 08
Originally posted by ivanhoeHillary is still winning in delegates for the convention and thats all that counts.
That's what the Obama team is hammering on these days. Obama is the unifying leader America needs.
The Hillary team will have a hard nut to crack to promote her as unifying ......
And can't Obama get someone decent to endorse him? First he get Edward' loser running mate, John Kerry
And now he gets an alcoholic murderer senator.... Ted Kennedy.
Sheessh, I wouldn't want a Kennedy endorsing me if i was 50% points back in the polls.
28 Jan 08
Originally posted by SMSBear716As far as I can see, Obama has more delegates (63) to Hillary's (48).
Hillary is still winning in delegates for the convention and thats all that counts.
And can't Obama get someone decent to endorse him? First he get Edward' loser running mate, John Kerry
And now he gets an alcoholic murderer senator.... Ted Kennedy.
Sheessh, I wouldn't want a Kennedy endorsing me if i was 50% points back in the polls.
Edwards will surely toss in his 26 delegates to Obama and there you go.
28 Jan 08
Originally posted by Thequ1ckYes but you're not an American. It's interesting to see the foreign perspective on this, however.
First impression count.
Hillary - Concerted, focussed, willing to lie or sleep her way into office.
Obama - Calculating, devious and powerhungry.
I know who'd get my vote.
28 Jan 08
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billary is exactly right. hill and bill are both arogant
a perfect pair
did you see that thing on tv were hillary was infuring that obama was boring everybody with his campaign because people were yawning during his speeches and during this there was someone in the background actually sleeping durring hers. or bill faqlling asleep during a telavised sermon
30 Jan 08
Originally posted by murrowAre you talking about "Super Tuesday"?
Yeah but what about the "superdelegates", which, while it's none of my business, don't seem very super.
Obama is gaining speed with the Kennedy endorsements. All he needs now is for Bill to say something completely stupid (highly likely) to ruin Hillary's campaign.
The thought of Bill in the White House again gives me the creeps! Hillary would do better without him, maybe she can find some campaign funds to hire someone to do him in. I would consider voting for her then.
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30 Jan 08
Originally posted by mlpriorhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate
Are you talking about "Super Tuesday"?
Obama is gaining speed with the Kennedy endorsements. All he needs now is for Bill to say something completely stupid (highly likely) to ruin Hillary's campaign.
The thought of Bill in the White House again gives me the creeps! Hillary would do better without him, maybe she can find some campaign funds to hire someone to do him in. I would consider voting for her then.
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Superdelegate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Superdelegates are delegates to a presidential nominating convention in the United States who are not bound by the decisions of party primaries or caucuses. Superdelegates are elected officeholders and party officials.
Superdelegates were first appointed in the 1970s, after control of the nomination process in the Democratic Party effectively moved out of the hands of party officials into the primary and caucus process. The aim was to accord some say in the process to people who had been playing roles in the party before the election year.
The Republican Party has 123 similarly automatically appointed delegates, members of the Republican National Committee, who wield roughly one fourth the voting power of the Democratic superdelegates.[1]
In the Democratic primary phase of the 2004 U.S. Presidential election, Howard Dean acquired an early lead in delegate counts by obtaining the support of a number of superdelegates before even the first primaries were held.
The 2008 Democratic National Convention
The 2008 Democratic National Convention, where the Democratic presidential ticket is formally agreed upon, has 796[2] superdelegates, although the number is not final until March 1, 2008. Superdelegates to the Democratic Convention include all Democratic members of the United States Congress, Democratic governors, various additional elected officials, as well as members of the Democratic National Committee.[3] A list of superdelegates can be found here.
A candidate needs a simple majority of the combined delegate and superdelegate votes to secure the nomination. Democratic delegates from state caucuses and primaries number 3,253. This means that the total number of votes is 4,049. The total number of delegate votes needed to win the nomination is 2,025.[2] Superdelegates account for approximately one fifth (19.6😵 of all votes at the convention. Delegates chosen in the Democratic caucuses and primaries account for approximately four fifths (80.4😵 of the Democratic convention delegates.[2][4] Note: All numbers in this section assume that Michigan and Florida's delegates are not counted per current Democratic National Committee rules. If those rules are changed before or during the convention, the numbers above will change as appropriate.
Criticism
The Democratic Party is often criticized during election cycles for conducting primary elections in a non-democratic fashion, since superdelegates are appointed by the party and are not obligated to support the candidate chosen by the voters. There have been repeated calls to eliminate the superdelegates from the primaries to more accurately reflect the popular vote.
30 Jan 08
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Originally posted by ivanhoeIronically I think this is the way that everyone I talk to feels yet Hillary continues to win with delegates. You know it seems to me that the Clintons have the political connections to get elected. After all, her husband was a two termer. Therefore, you would probably have to give her the nomination based upon this fact. However, Obama is a problem. He is much smarter and charaismatic than Hillary and I think it is making the nomination a little tougher than she expected. Unfortunatly for him, however, he is looking from the outside in, in regards to the insiders in the Dems political party as where Hillary is actually one of the "insiders".
That's what the Obama team is hammering on these days. Obama is the unifying leader America needs.
The Hillary team will have a hard nut to crack to promote her as unifying ......