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AThousandYoung
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Why do they need to print money? Just use gold coins.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
If the States try to make paper money that is legal tender, it's unconstitutional. Did you bother to read Article I, Section 10?

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No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payme ...[text shortened]... post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
Article I Section 10 of the Constitution forbids the States from making anything but gold and silver a legal tender in payment of debts. States are not required to enact legal tender laws.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Why do they need to print money? Just use gold coins.
Do you mean silver too? How big do you think a quarter would be if it were made of gold?

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
Article I Section 10 of the Constitution forbids the States from making anything but gold and silver a legal tender in payment of debts. States are not required to enact legal tender laws.
You said that before (actually you parroted it from the Paul speech), but you don't seem to grasp that the States can't make a currency legal tender. Granted, Paul doesn't seem to grasp it either, but the express prohibition was meant to end States printing money (which they did with gusto in the 1780's).

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Out of morbid curiosity, how would the States get a hold of all the gold and silver needed to back said "currencies"?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
You said that before (actually you parroted it from the Paul speech), but you don't seem to grasp that the States can't make a currency legal tender. Granted, Paul doesn't seem to grasp it either, but the express prohibition was meant to end States printing money (which they did with gusto in the 1780's).
What prohibition?

It is not in the constitution. Why do you think the states were able to print money?

Duh!

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For the record, I suggested backing a currency with gold AND SILVER.

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
What prohibition?

It is not in the constitution. Why do you think the states were able to print money?

Duh!
It's right there, you dolt. They were able to print money in the 1780's because the Constitution wasn't in effect yet.

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
For the record, I suggested backing a currency with gold AND SILVER.
And how are the States going to get all this gold and silver?

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
Some states are kicking around the idea of printing their own currency. I doubt the Fed wants competition so what are the chances of it happening?

http://www.boston.com/news/source/2011/02/_reuters_lee_ja.html

I think it is a good idea. I just doubt the powers that be would let it happen without a fight. What do you think?
Competition? You know the Treasury is the one in charge of printing currency, right?

If you mean competition for bank supervision, well there already is that.

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
Isn't it obvious? A fixed exchange rate would not be competitive.

Here is a link to a Ron Paul article that explains things well .


Oxymoron alert!

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
For the record, I suggested backing a currency with gold AND SILVER.
Why gold and silver? Why not a whole basket of commodities?

AThousandYoung
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Originally posted by Metal Brain
Do you mean silver too? How big do you think a quarter would be if it were made of gold?
You can't peg a currency to two different commodities. If silver was discovered all over the world in easy to harvest form, the silver to gold ratio would change.

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Originally posted by telerion
Why gold and silver? Why not a whole basket of commodities?
It doesn't sound as good to back your money with pork bellies or cattle?
But the argument these guys always make is that there's a finite supply of gold on the planet -- helping to add to its stability, I guess.

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
This is why.
http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html

Gold is holding it's value while the dollar is not. Which would you choose?
Holding it's value? 😕

What do you think would happen to consumer prices in the new currency when gold rises by about 30% in one year (since Feb 2010)? Note that CPI inflation in US dollars was less than 2% during this period.

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