24 Dec 10
Originally posted by utherpendragonI agree. I think the system is a joke. It is designed as a taxing system to fill the coffers of cities and states; nothing more and nothing less. If no damages occur, nothing should be done. Once damages occur, no leniency.
being .08 bac which is legally drunk doesnt fit into this scenario of yours. this sounds like someone who is about 3x the legal limit.
24 Dec 10
Originally posted by FreakyKBHIf it happened to me, I'd want the mo-fo skinned alive. But that's not the point. The justice system cannot be based on what the victim wants.
I'm sure if your children were without the love and comfort of their mother for the rest of their lives as a result of some ass-wipe three-time offender who decided it was okay to get crap-faced drunk, drive at excessive speeds and blow through red lights as he plowed into your wife's car--- thereby killing her--- you would comfort yourself and your childr ...[text shortened]... life-affirming human being.
Sorry: I value life a hell of a lot more than you do, I guess.
24 Dec 10
Originally posted by sh76Two swings, two misses. The measure of love is response-based--- decidedly not reactionary-based. The justice system is a loose approximation of a more concrete form of reality: God is aggrieved; what does God want?
If it happened to me, I'd want the mo-fo skinned alive. But that's not the point. The justice system cannot be based on what the victim wants.
25 Dec 10
Originally posted by FreakyKBHThat's a pretty odd brand of justice. So if for e.g. an employer is not following safety regulations, he should not be fined, but if some deadly accident occurs because regulations were not followed, he should be tried for murder?
I agree. I think the system is a joke. It is designed as a taxing system to fill the coffers of cities and states; nothing more and nothing less. If no damages occur, nothing should be done. Once damages occur, no leniency.
25 Dec 10
Originally posted by KazetNagorraGet rid of the safety regs.
That's a pretty odd brand of justice. So if for e.g. an employer is not following safety regulations, he should not be fined, but if some deadly accident occurs because regulations were not followed, he should be tried for murder?
If an employee causes the death of another employee he should be tried for manslaughter same as would happen should the incident occur outside work
If an employee causes his own death, thems the breaks eh. If an employer has a bad track record you know what you're letting yourself in for if you choose to work there.
25 Dec 10
Originally posted by WajomaThat's an excellent idea, so employers would have to choose between not being competitive, or risking the lives of their employees and a prison sentence. Wajomastan would be a lovely place, though you'd might have to fence it to stop people from fleeing.
Get rid of the safety regs.
If an employee causes the death of another employee he should be tried for manslaughter same as would happen should the incident occur outside work
If an employee causes his own death, thems the breaks eh. If an employer has a bad track record you know what you're letting yourself in for if you choose to work there.
25 Dec 10
Originally posted by KazetNagorraI don't think you quite understand the concept of the non-initation of force. The fence would represent an initiation of force. Maybe we're getting a bit too abstract for you.
That's an excellent idea, so employers would have to choose between not being competitive, or risking the lives of their employees and a prison sentence. Wajomastan would be a lovely place, though you'd might have to fence it to stop people from fleeing.
25 Dec 10
Originally posted by KazetNagorraYou're being very silly tonight, dead people can't agree or disagree with anything, and if you think so it's a debate for the spirituality board.
Yes, equally dangerous everywhere regardless of regulation and enforcement. But you aren't truly free unless you're dead, right?
25 Dec 10
Originally posted by WajomaThe present system where we have less dead people and less people in prison then would be the case under your proposal seems preferable.
Get rid of the safety regs.
If an employee causes the death of another employee he should be tried for manslaughter same as would happen should the incident occur outside work
If an employee causes his own death, thems the breaks eh. If an employer has a bad track record you know what you're letting yourself in for if you choose to work there.