01 Aug 21
@eladar saidNot in a vacuum, perhaps. But under '30's don't live in a vacuum. They live in the larger world. Last Spring and this past December certainly constituted public health emergencies.
@sh76
Based on the numbers, has covid ever been a medical emergency for people under 30?
Shutting down outdoor amusements like beaches and hiking trails was NEVER a good idea.
@sh76 saidIf you look at the numbers, a vast majority of people who died were of retirement age. Over half the deaths were people 70 or older.
Not in a vacuum, perhaps. But under '30's don't live in a vacuum. They live in the larger world. Last Spring and this past December certainly constituted public health emergencies.
Shutting down outdoor amusements like beaches and hiking trails was NEVER a good idea.
Why should colleges be shut down and kids sent home?
Why should working age people be put out of work and forced to get food from a food bank?
Society as a whole was never in great danger from COVID, only people who are already retired.
01 Aug 21
@eladar saidThe 10 year olds can pass it on to older people.
In the US we have seen about 3k covid deaths for our population below 30. Is this number of deaths enough of a reason to shut down beaches where kids can get out and enjoy life while getting some exercise in the process?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/
And if said older people aren’t vaccinated or have weaker immune systems they have a higher chance of hospitalization or death.
You often sound like you want a geriatric cull or something.
01 Aug 21
@shavixmir saidOlder people should be isolated from people who have not been tested from COVID.
The 10 year olds can pass it on to older people.
And if said older people aren’t vaccinated or have weaker immune systems they have a higher chance of hospitalization or death.
You often sound like you want a geriatric cull or something.
Instead our governments moved people with COVID into old folks homes.
01 Aug 21
@sh76 saidSorry, but I don't agree there was anything "crazy" about closing beaches in May 2020 which Eldy's article is from. Maintaining a six foot distancing on a crowded beach is nearly impossible.
I stand corrected.
I'll amend to "crazies in California."
And it was hardly just California:
"scientists do know that being near other people, including at a crowded beach, is the main way COVID-19 is spread. That’s why many public beaches are closing and why spring break partiers were labeled #CovIdiots.
Congregating at beaches is getting harder, with California under lockdown and the Carolinas closing beaches starting March 19. In Florida, the governor announced March 19 that the state will enforce rules to prevent people from gathering in groups of 10 or more. The New York Post has "eerie footage" of a now-empty Miami Beach, and state parks have closed."
https://www.webmd.com/lung/is-it-safe-to-go-to-the-beach-right-now#2
01 Aug 21
@no1marauder
According to the numbers, closing down beaches and slowing the spread of covid among young people is bad policy.
01 Aug 21
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@eladar saidIf you were one of those who got Covid that young, you'd be screaming to the rafters about it. Spare me.
In the US we have seen about 3k covid deaths for our population below 30. Is this number of deaths enough of a reason to shut down beaches where kids can get out and enjoy life while getting some exercise in the process?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/
01 Aug 21
@sh76 saidThere are surges across more than 20 states.
Which beaches have shut down?
The answer to your question is no, of course. Not only because there's a vaccine available and people are perfectly capable of making their own risk assessment, but (especially) because COVID doesn't generally spread much outdoors and in hot weather, two characteristics that most beaches share.
And guess what? It's August.
01 Aug 21
@eladar saidIs this number of deaths enough of a reason to shut down beaches where kids can get out and enjoy life while getting some exercise in the process?
In the US we have seen about 3k covid deaths for our population below 30. Is this number of deaths enough of a reason to shut down beaches where kids can get out and enjoy life while getting some exercise in the process?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/
This question presupposes you have the answer to it. So, tell us professor; what's the answer?
01 Aug 21
@eladar saidWho came up with those "numbers"? A couple of dentists?
@no1marauder
According to the numbers, closing down beaches and slowing the spread of covid among young people is bad policy.