04 Aug 23
@soothfast saidIt is a human problem not an area issue or isolated to some party, sex, skin color and on an on. Attributing it into some small cross section of the human race simply shows how you are part of the problem. We all share the same nature, and it is not rectified by joining one political party over another, or having the right skin color, nationality, biological sex. If you think you are more righteous because of some superficial thing you are mistaken.
Understand, wherever in the US the people most identify with being Christian, those are precisely the places where the most un-Christian-like policies and attitudes will prevail. Call it hypocrisy, doublethink, cognitive dissonance, or Satanism in sheep's clothing, but that's just the way it is. These days "Trumpism" seems to be the most apt descriptor.
05 Aug 23
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I note that the court acquitted the man who had been given a citation for offering food to the homeless. Hurrah for civil disobedience! There appear to be a few righteous Texans after all, and one of them is a judge.
“It is not desirable to cultivate a respect for the law, so much as for the right.“
-- Henry David Thoreau, On Civil Disobedience
05 Aug 23
@kellyjay saidGood point.
I have not ever used the word “Woke “ to describe anyone. My point to you is we are all damaged and quite capable of doing horrible things to one another, that means right, left, pick your color or sex there isn’t a class or segment of humanity that is not capable of being bad. So suggesting particular groups alone are responsible for any mess we find or are in is counter productive. That breed contempt and hate.
Dems f'd up here.
05 Aug 23
@moonbus saidDidn't you get the feeling that all of Texas and Republicans were being blamed for that? You were ready to cast the state of Texas aside, were you not? It is funny that many who claim to be righteous have zero issues casting blame on very large groups of people as if they alone were the problem when the truth is it is a HUMAN issue that we all share in, self-righteous anyone?
I did. Also all of the preceding ones.
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05 Aug 23
@kellyjay saidahhh…the problem with liberals, their own worst enemy yet they cant see it
Didn't you get the feeling that all of Texas and Republicans were being blamed for that? You were ready to cast the state of Texas aside, were you not? It is funny that many who claim to be righteous have zero issues casting blame on very large groups of people as if they alone were the problem when the truth is it is a HUMAN issue that we all share in, self-righteous anyone?
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We know you think all of humanity is evil. I do not share that opinion, and the fact that some people are defying a stupid law to help others in dire straits, and that at least one judge acquitted a person charged with breaking that law, is a glimmer of joy in an otherwise wretched state, IMO. As a born Texan, but no longer resident there, it pains me to see stupid legislation passed there, regardless which party was a party to it.
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05 Aug 23
@moonbus saidwhen do you stop feeding them? When it gets to be hundreds, thousands, millions?
@KellyJay
We know you think all of humanity is evil. I do not share that opinion, and the fact that some people are defying a stupid law to help others in dire straits, and that at least one judge acquitted a person charged with breaking that law, is a glimmer of joy in an otherwise wretched state, IMO. As a born Texan, but no longer resident there, it pains me to see stupid legislation passed there, regardless which party was a party to it.
If a stray dog comes up and you feed it, it is then yours, it will never go away. Soon you are over run with dogs.
Liberal think will ruin your life.
As can be proven by reading this forum, liberals are an unhappy, angry lot.
05 Aug 23
@mott-the-hoople saidThis isn't about liberals or conservatives. Kelly is right on this, that it's about humanity.
when do you stop feeding them? When it gets to be hundreds, thousands, millions?
If a stray dog comes up and you feed it, it is then yours, it will never go away. Soon you are over run with dogs.
Liberal think will ruin your life.
As can be proven by reading this forum, liberals are an unhappy, angry lot.
What I find troubling about this law in particular, and the political attitude it betrays, is that it does not address the real issue of homelessness but only the superficial visibility of homelessness: don't find out why people are homeless and do something about it, no, just make sure we don't have to see homeless people in front of a public library. Now that is inhumane, unchristian, a-social, callous, stupid, politically short-sighted, call it what you will. But I won't call it "evil", on this point I disagree with Kelly: it does not rise (fall) to such a level as to merit the epithet "evil".
06 Aug 23
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@moonbus saidBut. This is the (Republican) Way.
This isn't about liberals or conservatives. Kelly is right on this, that it's about humanity.
What I find troubling about this law in particular, and the political attitude it betrays, is that it does not address the real issue of homelessness but only the superficial visibility of homelessness: don't find out why people are homeless and do something about it, no, just ma ...[text shortened]... point I disagree with Kelly: it does not rise (fall) to such a level as to merit the epithet "evil".
Never worry about actually spending money to solve problems, when we can send that money directly to the gun lobby and corporations to get ourselves elected. But we have to look like we're doing something, so we'll ship them all out somewhere where people can't see them. Or, better yet, we'll make people stop feeding them and they'll go away on their own, like pigeons. Forget about our humanity, we have our kickbacks to maintain!
Money over humanity, every time.
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@mott-the-hoople saidEver hear of this guy named Jesus?
when do you stop feeding them? When it gets to be hundreds, thousands, millions?
If a stray dog comes up and you feed it, it is then yours, it will never go away. Soon you are over run with dogs.
Liberal think will ruin your life.
As can be proven by reading this forum, liberals are an unhappy, angry lot.
Nah, probably not.
@moonbus saidDo you think there is some special group of humans that do not share the same nature as you and everyone else, thus making them incapable of doing wrong instead of good? I don't care where you were born, neither does it matter to me what biological sex you are, what political party you belong to, or even if you avoid them all. Singling out some superficial part of our human makeup, like where you were born, or who and what your parents were doesn't change you into something better or worse than any other person.
@KellyJay
We know you think all of humanity is evil. I do not share that opinion, and the fact that some people are defying a stupid law to help others in dire straits, and that at least one judge acquitted a person charged with breaking that law, is a glimmer of joy in an otherwise wretched state, IMO. As a born Texan, but no longer resident there, it pains me to see stupid legislation passed there, regardless which party was a party to it.
We are all capable of the most heinous acts we do to each other just a little push justifying it so we think it's okay is all it takes. As it stands now there is a large number of people who right now are dehumanizing large groups of fellow humans, and once that hits a level of hate it becomes very easy to justify all manner of evil.
If people are not thought of as important then laws like this seem reasonable to the hard-hearted people who have other priorities so that they can dismiss human life over money, or power.
06 Aug 23
@moonbus saidEvil is the abuse of good, the greater the good the worse the evil. If feeding the poor is good, forbidding it is evil.
This isn't about liberals or conservatives. Kelly is right on this, that it's about humanity.
What I find troubling about this law in particular, and the political attitude it betrays, is that it does not address the real issue of homelessness but only the superficial visibility of homelessness: don't find out why people are homeless and do something about it, no, just ma ...[text shortened]... point I disagree with Kelly: it does not rise (fall) to such a level as to merit the epithet "evil".
@moonbus saidSmall wonder you don't see evil everywhere when you cannot see right in front of you.
This isn't about liberals or conservatives. Kelly is right on this, that it's about humanity.
What I find troubling about this law in particular, and the political attitude it betrays, is that it does not address the real issue of homelessness but only the superficial visibility of homelessness: don't find out why people are homeless and do something about it, no, just ma ...[text shortened]... point I disagree with Kelly: it does not rise (fall) to such a level as to merit the epithet "evil".