Day Light Saving Time

Originally posted by sh76
US states choose whether to change the clocks. Arizona does not apply DST at all.

There's no reason England and Scotland have to be in lockstep on this. In the US, we're used to having different states in different time zones, so the idea of some states not adopting DST is not a big deal.

Several States are in two time zones, off the top of my head Michigan, Indiana, and Florida. In 2000 the time zone difference in Florida played a part in national election results when the Networks declared Florida in favor of Gore, before the polls closed in Western Florida.

These can get complicated when a State is in two time zones, and some may or may not go on DLS time.

Originally posted by normbenign
Hate DLS. It is like intentionally induced jet lag.

LOL... 😀

But it wouldn't be DLS if everywhere was changed, and it became a norm. 😉

-m.

Originally posted by mikelom
LOL... 😀

But it wouldn't be DLS if everywhere was changed, and it became a norm. 😉

-m.

For most of America, DLS time, is an anachronism from the time when America was almost entirely agrarian. It is like kids getting almost three months vacation from school in the summer.

It is out of place in today's society. My friend who goes to work about 5 am, was griping about how late fireworks are set off around the fourth. The big city display doesn't go until after 10pm when it gets totally dark, and after that the amateurs take over.

Originally posted by mikelom
But keep current time? Or move everything forward by 1 hour for the whole year ad infinitum? That's my inquisition..... e.g. GMT should be +1 from London all year round, and others adjust accordingly all year round too....... those that want to, of course? I read that DST is not a legal state requirement in USA, and that states such as Kansas and Hawaii neve ...[text shortened]... as it is, or move it forward an hour permanently? Apologies, I didn't make my quest clear. 😳

move it forward an hour and leave it like that forever

Originally posted by karoly aczel
move it forward an hour and leave it like that forever

Why? There is absolutely no benefit to moving forward an hour permanently. There are only down sides (confusion about when noon and midnight are).

Originally posted by twhitehead
Why? There is absolutely no benefit to moving forward an hour permanently. There are only down sides (confusion about when noon and midnight are).

Well, there's nothing inherent that says 12:00 PM has to be solar noon. We could start calling 1:00 PM solar noon (which it is -approximately - under DST).

My objection to permanent DST is that in all relatively northern latitudes, you're going to cause the Sun to rise very late in the winter, which would be inconvenient for many people.

Originally posted by twhitehead
Why? There is absolutely no benefit to moving forward an hour permanently. There are only down sides (confusion about when noon and midnight are).

Ok. Leave it where it is then 🙂

Originally posted by sh76
Well, there's nothing inherent that says 12:00 PM has to be solar noon. We could start calling 1:00 PM solar noon (which it is -approximately - under DST).

And there is nothing inherent that says that you must go to work at a particular hour of the clock. It seems that those arguing for a permanent DST have it in their heads that working hours can never ever be changed when in reality it is far easier, and more sensible, to change the working hours than to change the clocks - except when the change is done seasonally as in DST - but even then it is debatable.

My objection to permanent DST is that in all relatively northern latitudes, you're going to cause the Sun to rise very late in the winter, which would be inconvenient for many people.
And which is, in reality an illusion. The sun will rise and set whatever your clocks say. The real issue is what time sunrise is in relation to your working hours and your customs. DST is one solution, seasonal working hours is an alternative.