03 May 06
Originally posted by amannionWhat's wrong with state sponsored murder, then? If a recidivist maniac is only going to continue hurting innocent people, why not put him to sleep so he can't hurt anyone else, ever?
It's murder, pure and simple. Actually worse than that, it's state sponsored murder.
Which we get all up in arms about when it's some authoritarian dictatorship ...
It's not murder, by the way. Murder is the UNLAWFUL killing of another human being, executing criminals is lawful, so it ain't murder.
04 May 06
Originally posted by General PutzerI guess I have the view that we should punish but also rehabilitate.
What's wrong with state sponsored murder, then? If a recidivist maniac is only going to continue hurting innocent people, why not put him to sleep so he can't hurt anyone else, ever?
It's not murder, by the way. Murder is the UNLAWFUL killing of another human being, executing criminals is lawful, so it ain't murder.
For someone who is truly homicidal and sociopathic then locking them away seems to me to be perfectly reasonable.
But for murderers who's motivation is emotional or economic, why not try to rehabilitate. Let's have a go at actually getting something back from these people - that is, let's help them to contribute something to society.
Executing criminals is lawful in some places. Here's a selection:
Afghanistan
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Belarus
Botswana
Burundi
Cameroon
Chad
China (People's Republic)
Congo (Democratic Republic)
Cuba
Egypt
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Gabon
Ghana
Guatemala
Iran
Iraq
Kazakhstan
Korea, North
Korea, South
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Lebanon
Lesotho
Liberia
Libya
Malawi
Nigeria
Oman
Palestinian Authority
Philippines
Qatar
Rwanda
Saudi Arabia
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Somalia
Sudan
Syria
Tajikistan
Tanzania
Uganda
United Arab Emirates
United States
Uzbekistan
Vietnam
Yemen
Zambia
Zimbabwe
Nice group to be associated with.
04 May 06
Originally posted by amannionRehabilitating murderers is a luxury some countries just cannot afford.
I guess I have the view that we should punish but also rehabilitate.
For someone who is truly homicidal and sociopathic then locking them away seems to me to be perfectly reasonable.
But for murderers who's motivation is emotional or economic, why not try to rehabilitate. Let's have a go at actually getting something back from these people - that is, le ...[text shortened]... States
Uzbekistan
Vietnam
Yemen
Zambia
Zimbabwe
Nice group to be associated with.
04 May 06
Originally posted by General PutzerThat's idiotic.
Rehabilitation?? Nobody has figured out a way of doing that, ever. When that day comes, cry for the poor lost souls, but for now just stick a needle in their arm and be done with it.
Many prisoners become rehabilitated after their period of incarceration is over. Admittedly it could be done better, but how when there are so many like you who'd rather just lock them up and throw away the keys?