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I asked KellyJay this in a thread just now but he hates me with his baby-hate and won’t reply, so I’ll ask it here.
Republicans, especially Christian republicans are appalled by abortion because they believe the zygote and embryo are a human being from conception.
So is the morning after pill still abortion even if the woman doesn’t know if she has conceived or not?
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@divegeester said!!! You are not supposed to bring science and rationality in here. This is 'Debates' 😆
I asked KellyJay this in a thread just now but he hates me with his baby-hate and won’t reply, so I’ll ask it here.
Republicans, especially Christian republicans are appalled by abortion because they believe the zygote and embryo are a human being from conception.
So is the morning after pill still abortion even if the woman doesn’t know if she has conceived or not?
@divegeester saidDo you want a man's point of view or a woman's? I'll tell you mine: a morning after pill is no more an abortion than using a condom during intercourse.
I asked KellyJay this in a thread just now but he hates me with his baby-hate and won’t reply, so I’ll ask it here.
Republicans, especially Christian republicans are appalled by abortion because they believe the zygote and embryo are a human being from conception.
So is the morning after pill still abortion even if the woman doesn’t know if she has conceived or not?
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@divegeester saidMaybe they could consider my post.
Either, anyone. But especially Republicans given the abortion issue in the US.
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@Torunn saidI see, thanks.
I'll tell you mine: a morning after pill is no more an abortion than using a condom during intercourse.
So in the case of a rape victim they could take the pill and ensure they didn’t become pregnant?
I wonder why there seems to be so much talk within the pro abortion groups about this situation when it’s preventable.
@divegeester saidWhether a woman knows she’s pregnant or not is irrelevant to the abortion debate, at least as far as Roman Catholicism is concerned. The strict doctrine is that anything which hinders pregnancy is prima facie forbidden, and given that contraceptives hinder conception, it follows that the morning after pill is morally equivalent to abortion ( for Catholics, and probably also for many Evangelicals).
I asked KellyJay this in a thread just now but he hates me with his baby-hate and won’t reply, so I’ll ask it here.
Republicans, especially Christian republicans are appalled by abortion because they believe the zygote and embryo are a human being from conception.
So is the morning after pill still abortion even if the woman doesn’t know if she has conceived or not?
@divegeester saidIf you take the Catholic position as pilloried by the Python Crew, then every sperm is sacred and any attempt to interfere or present a barrier between sperm saying hello to egg is abhorrent.
Republicans, especially Christian republicans are appalled by abortion because they believe the zygote and embryo are a human being from conception.
By that logic, vasectomies should also be banned along with the pill, the condom, the morning after pill and abortion.
@divegeester saidMorning after pills prevent fertilization, so no:
I asked KellyJay this in a thread just now but he hates me with his baby-hate and won’t reply, so I’ll ask it here.
Republicans, especially Christian republicans are appalled by abortion because they believe the zygote and embryo are a human being from conception.
So is the morning after pill still abortion even if the woman doesn’t know if she has conceived or not?
"The morning-after pill's role is to prevent pregnancy from occurring to keep that sneaky sperm from meeting an egg to fertilize. Simply put—no fertilization, no pregnancy."
https://cadenceotc.com/blogs/learn-share/understanding-the-morning-after-pill-10-things-you-should-know
The morning after pill can equate to an abortion because it prevents a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterine wall.
It won't kill a fertilized egg directly but the egg will die after menstruation.
Then again, a woman isn't technically considered pregnant until the egg is implanted. But given that conservatives have laws treating embryos like people, that hardly matters.
@vivify saidThe FDA's current position is that this does not happen. The morning after pill only prevents ovulation and does not interfere with implantation.
The morning after pill can equate to an abortion because it prevents a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterine wall.
Which is very convenient, politically. 😆
@divegeester saidThe trauma of a rape is not about being pregnant or not - it's the experience itself. It's difficult being rational in that situation.
I see, thanks.
So in the case of a rape victim they could take the pill and ensure they didn’t become pregnant?
I wonder why there seems to be so much talk within the pro abortion groups about this situation when it’s preventable.
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@vivify saidInteresting.
The morning after pill can equate to an abortion because it prevents a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterine wall.
It won't kill a fertilized egg directly but the egg will die after menstruation.
Then again, a woman isn't technically considered pregnant until the egg is implanted. But given that conservatives have laws treating embryos like people, that hardly matters.
Technically though isn’t a fertilised egg a zygote and not an embryo?
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@Torunn saidYes, I’m not suggesting a rape victim herself be rational, I’m talking about crisis centres and the police offering the pill during immediate counselling, if that happens, if the rape is reported etc .
The trauma of a rape is not about being pregnant or not - it's the experience itself. It's difficult being rational in that situation.
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@divegeester saidYes. Though that doesn't matter yo conservatives.
Interesting.
Technically though isn’t a fertilised egg a zygote and not an embryo?