@KingDavid403 saidZzzzzzzzzzzzz
An egg with a sperm-cell in it, is not a person, baby, or human being. It's an egg with a sperm-cell in it. It is what it is; nothing more.
By your logic, every egg in a woman's body is a person just waiting for some fertilizer. That would mean no more menstrual cycle's for woman; which would put all tampon companies out of business which could crash your stock market shares little joe. think...
@AverageJoe1 said"So it shall be written. So it shall be DONE!" π
I and my priest must pay for them.
@spruce112358 saidWill that be it, or will yall require us to pay for other stuff of faerie non-self-reliant citizens?
"So it shall be written. So it shall be DONE!" π
Would you have us pay for college for 5 sons if jack jones, and also for the ONE son of BillSmith? Not fair, is it? Is it? Please respond,
@AverageJoe1 saidCitizens of faerie (qv. elves) are always self-reliant. π
Will that be it, or will yall require us to pay for other stuff of faerie non-self-reliant citizens?
Would you have us pay for college for 5 sons if jack jones, and also for the ONE son of BillSmith? Not fair, is it? Is it? Please respond,
What's the overwhelming narrative pro lifers give?
If such and such had an abortion we would never have been blessed with an Einstein, a McCartney or some other giant in the field, because once life is started we are squeamish to end it because of the potential that unborn life presents.
But what about all the billions of instances of life that does not even get to come into existence because of contraception. What about all the selfish people that want to enjoy the act of procreation without any potential of life to come into being. What about all that benefit that we as society are robbed of. Why does no one see the equivalence between contraception and abortion when it comes to the potential benefit that coupling could bring!
@kmax87 said"when it comes to the potential benefit that coupling could bring!"
What's the overwhelming narrative pro lifers give?
If such and such had an abortion we would never have been blessed with an Einstein, a McCartney or some other giant in the field, because once life is started we are squeamish to end it because of the potential that unborn life presents.
But what about all the billions of instances of life that does not even get to come ...[text shortened]... between contraception and abortion when it comes to the potential benefit that coupling could bring!
Isn't the world over-populated enough?
We are destroying the planet we live on to try and feed/supply ever increasing demands
@AverageJoe1 saidA girl or women RAPED did not ask for it, PERIOD!!!
Stay the course here. When people take a pill, or use a rubber, or abstain, they are deciding if they want to risk pregnancy or not. I loaded up on Tesla last week, risking dollars.
If the girl gets pregnant, she took the risk. She owns the pregnancy. She has a baby inside.
So abortion discussions would begin there, would they not.? Not on how she 'got' that ...[text shortened]... boils down to erase and scrape the child from her womb.
Vote. Why be so daft. It is what it is.
-VR
@MartinS saidYou're probably right, I'm just trying to tease out what exactly the anti-abortionists are putting forward as a morally superior argument, when from an outcomes point of view preventing pregnancy or ending pregnancy has the same impact in denying the human race of similar benefits.
"when it comes to the potential benefit that coupling could bring!"
Isn't the world over-populated enough?
We are destroying the planet we live on to try and feed/supply ever increasing demands
@kmax87 saidSorry, I try diff ways to register discontent with scientific topics when we are in fact neither scientists nor physicians, Eggs, sperm breaches wall. A baby is either a baby or not a baby.
Sleeping in Church again?
Some people want other people’s stuff, some think that is wrong….a discussable issue.
Sperm stuff not discussable. The King might try PM with someone?
@Very-Rusty saidRight. Do we not agree that said baby be aborted? And victim of incest.
A girl or women RAPED did not ask for it, PERIOD!!!
-VR
@AverageJoe1 saidThat'd be murder on top of rape/incest. Can't have that. π
Right. Do we not agree that said baby be aborted? And victim of incest.
@AverageJoe1 saidWell, Jack Jones' 5 kids went to tech schools and have $45k in debt between them all. Bill Smith's kid went to Hah-vahd and racked up $120k in debt. So the correct answer is...
Would you have us pay for college for 5 sons if jack jones, and also for the ONE son of BillSmith? Not fair, is it? Is it?
"All bailouts and tax breaks are unconstitutional under the 14th amendment guarantee of equal protection under the law!" π
@spruce112358 saidWhy, did I just see you modify my question? Would you put it back, and assume that all go to same college, same tuition ?
Well, Jack Jones' 5 kids went to tech schools and have $45k in debt between them all. Bill Smith's kid went to Hah-vahd and racked up $120k in debt. So the correct answer is...
"All bailouts and tax breaks are unconstitutional under the 14th amendment guarantee of equal protection under the law!" π
Naa you wont answer
@AverageJoe1 saidCorrect. I've spent my professional life teaching people how to ask the RIGHT questions. AND I AIN'T STOPPIN' NOW!!!!! π
Why, did I just see you modify my question? Would you put it back, and assume that all go to same college, same tuition ?
Naa you wont answer